Relegation 2022/23

[Simon Buttle]

Could be good for us to have West Ham + Leicester down. Two sides who would be in real trouble if relegated that have been better than us in recent seasons.

In terms of players we could sign from relegated clubs though, Southampton, Bournemouth and Forest would have players id be looking at.

They have been my tip to go all along and I still think they will go. Moyes just seems a bit lost now, he doesn't have the tactical awareness to drag them out of this imo, he has his system and he sticks with it. Problem for them is they have spent a fortune last summer and a lot of those players are wasted in that system and he won't change it and it's costing them. Majority of hammers fans down here want him gone either now or in the summer.

 

[Blue peter]

We don't have to be the best this season despite our motto, just not as bad as three other teams.

What’s the Latin ‘only the fourth worst is good enough’?

 

[Mr PEN86]

Yeah I agree. No game should be a write-off. Got a point against City already. Newcastle with the whole Gordon return to Goodison will get the crowd and players up for it. Give Brighton a few kicks and you can break up their play. Bottom line is, we should look at these remaining games thinking we can get something starting with United at lunchtime Saturday.

 

[Mr PEN86]

Think Forest have a tough run in. Southamption are probably a couple more defeats away from being the first breakaways. West Ham have a good squad but their run in isn't easy either. Somehow think Leicester will find a way out. Leeds have momentum too and Bournemouth have done alright and are playing a lot of the teams around them so will start picking up points. So hopefully if we stay up, it'll be because Southampton, Forest and West Ham were worse

 

[Timbucktoo]

What’s the Latin ‘only the fourth worst is good enough’?

solus quartus pessimus satis est

 

[Mr PEN86]

Good results for us and now everyone bah West Ham are on the same games, still going to be tough thought. Utd away not great game for us

Think we got as good as we got against them in the FAC. If Gray is a couple steps behind, it's 2-2 and who knows. Think we just need to go at them. In my mind I've factored in a loss so looking at where other results will leave us. My heart is saying old United boys Keane and Garner score in a 1-2 win

 

[royalbalou]

I did this yesterday for something to do ended up with this. https://www.worldfootball.net/table_calculator/eng-premier-league/

I did this earlier and had similar outcome - got same 3 going down, all on 29 points...with West Ham surviving on goal difference..us on 38 points...and City pipping Arsenal

 

[royalbalou]

Even allowing for 4 defeats, 4 draws and 2 wins I still can't see us going down on 36 points...and that is my worst scenario... anything less and we'd deserve to go down.

 

[Leedsfan1919]

What’s the Latin ‘only the fourth worst is good enough’?

Nil Satis Nisi Fourthfrombottomus

 

[perth_blue]

Even allowing for 4 defeats, 4 draws and 2 wins I still can't see us going down on 36 points...and that is my worst scenario... anything less and we'd deserve to go down.

Who were the draws and wins against?

 

[davek]

Think Forest have a tough run in. Southamption are probably a couple more defeats away from being the first breakaways. West Ham have a good squad but their run in isn't easy either. Somehow think Leicester will find a way out. Leeds have momentum too and Bournemouth have done alright and are playing a lot of the teams around them so will start picking up points. So hopefully if we stay up, it'll be because Southampton, Forest and West Ham were worse

Leeds have a lot of goals in them. I was hoping Rodrigo was out for the season at one point, but the moment he returned I suspected they'd be ok. And they get goals from other sources too.

They'll be out of this with Palace soon.

 

[davek]

Even allowing for 4 defeats, 4 draws and 2 wins I still can't see us going down on 36 points...and that is my worst scenario... anything less and we'd deserve to go down.

I dont think S'ton or Forest will get anywhere near 36 points.

I could make a possible case for others to get 36 points though - stronger for some than others.

36 should be ok, but we may need a couple of points more.

There's points to be had in all of our matches we have left. Obvioulsy it'll be very difficult to go unbeaten, but I can see us taking just two more defeats.

Three wins is well within us and a clutch of draws seals it.

 

[Blue peter]

All those teams on the lookout for a new manager...worst time ever to sack your manager.

The only slight advantage they have over us is 5hat some of them may need to play Chelsea again under Lampard.

 

[davek]

I swear everyone had Leicester and West Ham as being mid table and over the hills and far away by now.

I did.

We have to factor in the mood round those camps. Leicester looks like a civil war has broken out and a lot of players are ready for the off and not arsed about rolling up their sleeves and fighting for that club. And in WHU's case the long season they've had in Europe must be impacting. They look a fatigued bunch to me.

I'm not sure BOTH will get out of it. I'd say Moyes will keep West Ham up just about (if they stick with him), but Leicester are looking very vulnerable.

 

[Bebeto]

The only slight advantage they have over us is 5hat some of them may need to play Chelsea again under Lampard.

Lampard would want to do well at Chelsea so hopefully he does...very different squad than the one he had at everton...