Relegation 2022/23

[kenada_blue]

"Good football" is entirely subjective. Probably a very loose definition would be any style of football where you try an win a game by scoring a few goals from open play. How that manifests itself is entirely subjective. Barcelona's Tiki Taka was a very slow style of football but extraordinarily technical and effective. Bayerns Total football was all about getting the ball forward as quickly as possible and creating disruption in the transition. Most teams these days play the second style.

Trying to go 1-0 up off a set piece and sit on it is the very definition of bad football though and has never been anything else. Even the Simeones and Mourinhos of the world wouldn't go for it.

What we are seeing now at Everton is why. Eventually you will always revert to the mean and for every fluke worldie from Coleman to win you a game there will be 5 where it doesn't work out. Carlos season with us was a great example of this at Everton. Top of the league playing attacking football, fell down the league playing negative football.

And for what it is worth i don't agree with the last point. Over the last few years more clubs that have come up have stayed up, and it has been the ones who come up playing attacking football that tend to stick.

It's means to an end with what you have though isn't it?

We have an awful squad who can't score goals so what do you do to get goals and wins?

Carlo sussed that out and changed to a more pragmatic approach cos the quality wasn't there. He still got the max out of that squad.

You play attacking football successfully based on solid foundations. Roberto Martinez' Wigan played eye catching football the right way, won an FA Cup, now that club is languishing in league 1/champo. Blackpool, Leeds, Norwich, Huddersfield...just naming a few who played great attacking football at one point...all flopped based on foundations.

Last season Norwich, Brentford, Watford came up. Norwich and Watford went down. Season before...Leeds, West Brom, Fulham. West Brom and Fulham went down. Season before that Villa, Sheff United, Norwich...

Out of 3 that go up, most go down. Well...apart from this season.

 

[Lob]

The only way we are staying up is if Forest, Leicester and Southampton do worse than us. You couldn't count on these players for anything. There is nothing in them that even slightly resembles Everton. Best to resign yourself to probable relegation which is what the club deserves for what they have all done to it, players and hierarchy.

 

[kenada_blue]

Newcastle and City of this season are different gravy to Chelsea and Utd of last season, plus we dont have Richarlison who single handedly got the winner v Chelsea, his replacement? Neale Maupay!

Yeah and that is the biggest difference.... No goal scorers, not even anyone that is going to stand up and fight!

That's it really. We at least had one hope to provide some magic.

Now we have nothing.

 

[MIKE85]

these players could do with a finch farm visit from the Everton massive

What is Purple Aki up to nowadays?

 

[MIKE85]

I've thought about it, and given DCL will be back next week I now see 8 points for us. Brighton will possibly be in the fa cup final so distracted too.

We aren't going down. We will win a game when we don't expect to, it could be against Newcastle, Leicester etc.

I think we'll beat Leicester and B'mouth. Draw with Newcastle is achievable especially at home. That's 7 points. Hopefully they'll be enough

 

[blueblood]

I'm really torn. Part of me thinks I'd feel better if we just went down and gambled that this brought about the complete sweeping away of players who aren't bothered and the inept, inadequate and incompetent board who have brought us to this position. 2 years of scrutinising the results of Burnley, Watford, Leeds, Southampton and Leicester is just grim. If it wasn't for the potential financial armageddon I'd think a year in the Championship would be short term pain for long term gain. Grim.

 

[Dublin blue 75]

I think we'll beat Leicester and B'mouth. Draw with Newcastle is achievable especially at home. That's 7 points. Hopefully they'll be enough

Not a hope we beat Bournemouth in the last game - this lot would wilt at the prospect

 

[blue61]

This club deserves to go down, the supporters don't. That's all I've got.

 

[dannyboy]

Not a hope we beat Bournemouth in the last game - this lot would wilt at the prospect

Only thing that could work in our favour would be Bournemouth already being in holiday mode. If they turned up with any sort of determination to send us down, we'd be right up against it.

 

[kithnou]

Only thing that could work in our favour would be Bournemouth already being in holiday mode. If they turned up with any sort of determination to send us down, we'd be right up against it.

You mean like Fulham today mate?

 

[luuk_deventer]

Just watching the highlights of the Leicester game and after being 3-0 down, they could have very easily snatched a draw in the end. A good fightback in the second half, more than they have shown recently.

 

[dannyboy]

You mean like Fulham today mate?

You're spot on of course. It's mad to see people making predictions of us getting 3 points here and there when we got battered by Fulham. I don't think we could have hand picked a better game for today and we blew it.

 

[mccole]

We are in the spiral because we haven't won those games we should have.

Plain and simple.

We have 7 games but we can't do it all at home, we need to get away wins. It might actually benefit us being away from added home pressure.

Aways:
Palace
Leicester
Brighton
Wolves

We have 2 six-pointers in Leicester and Wolves, if we don't lose them it's a huge, a win is massive.

Palace have won 3 out of 3 so I am praying we can pick up a win if their eye is off the ball and can create some distance from the bottom 3.

By the time, we play Brighton, they will be in the mix for European football so that a tough game but hopefully they will be so far ahead of their rivals so will be dusting off their passports.

If feels bad right now but it starts with one win so let's get it next week v Palace.

 

[dannyboy]

Just watching the highlights of the Leicester game and after being 3-0 down, they could have very easily snatched a draw in the end. A good fightback in the second half, more than they have shown recently.

Definitely gave them something to build on next week. They are much more of a threat to our survival than Burnley and Watford ever were last season.

 

[daza_1973]

Only thing that could work in our favour would be Bournemouth already being in holiday mode. If they turned up with any sort of determination to send us down, we'd be right up against it.

Any team that loses to bournemouth 3 times in one season fully deserves championship football.