Relegation 2022/23

[Jeff Jones]

I didn't open this thread until yesterday and I read the last few pages. My thought was that if we're in a relegation fight now, so is the
whole bottom half and a few in the top half.
A win or two can take you right up the table and Everton's win today proves the point.

It's far too early to talk about relegation fights, even for the bottom three.

 

[Bluestar]

I think we are a better team than last season and I can’t really envisage us being embroiled in a relegation scrap this season.

Things can change of course, one or two key injuries etc. Right now though, my heart and head tells me we’ll be somewhere between 14th and 10th.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I think we’d best wait until we’re mathematically safe before you do your respective victory laps

Still a way off 40 points

Self fullfilling prophecy is a thing too many reach for wallowing negative and seem to enjoy far too much.

 

[EGWToffee]

After yesterday’s performance I can’t see us going down a higher bottom half finish seems to be a sensible thought.

 

[Nymzee]

Lowest we can drop to today is 12th and that’s if Saints beat Arsenal so 11th it is for us.

 

[smileychap]

I didn't open this thread until yesterday and I read the last few pages. My thought was that if we're in a relegation fight now, so is the
whole bottom half and a few in the top half.
A win or two can take you right up the table and Everton's win today proves the point.

It's far too early to talk about relegation fights, even for the bottom three.

Yeah mostly agree with that.

The bottom seven is roughly what I trotted out here somewhere (albeit I didn't predict the slow starts at Leicester or Hammers)

It's a merry-go-round after 7th, but I think Bournemouth, Fulham, Saints, Forest and Leeds and quite possibly Villa and who knows Palace on yesterday's showing can be in the mix. We won't be in it. I hoped for 10-14 and feel we'll be 11-13. World Cup feels like it may hurt other teams more than us.

Personally, my hopes this season was unduly influenced by last, and I think it's easy to underestimate the struggles of other clubs with lower attendance than us. For me, 'success' would be something like the following

1. Comfy finish in 10-14. Being on track to achieve this 8-10 games out gives a lot of scope for trying new talent
2. 2+ new faces from our youth. These need to be 'Everton' players, i.e. local lads like Gordon. I don't expect them to achieve what Antony's done in the last 2-3 seasons, but I wanna see that the talent is there, and that we're using it, and it's part of the future. Look what that lad's worth compared to the dross we've imported. An unsightly blight on this club in the last 10 years that we've developed so few home grown stars.Hey ho, times now changing hopefully.
3. A cup run (quarters in anything)

Youth-wise - consider the impact of not having Patt-man, it already feels like a loss given his early season form, So provided we stay up then point 2 is the most important in our development this season. I'm not saying Gana and Onana have not helped, but we're Everton. We should be producing amazing talent.

Keep at it Frank. Doing good.

 

[ToffeeTim]

4 + points from our next 3 and hopefully we can have a less stressful season.

 

[jonnyboy316]

Yeah mostly agree with that.

The bottom seven is roughly what I trotted out here somewhere (albeit I didn't predict the slow starts at Leicester or Hammers)

It's a merry-go-round after 7th, but I think Bournemouth, Fulham, Saints, Forest and Leeds and quite possibly Villa and who knows Palace on yesterday's showing can be in the mix. We won't be in it. I hoped for 10-14 and feel we'll be 11-13. World Cup feels like it may hurt other teams more than us.

Personally, my hopes this season was unduly influenced by last, and I think it's easy to underestimate the struggles of other clubs with lower attendance than us. For me, 'success' would be something like the following

1. Comfy finish in 10-14. Being on track to achieve this 8-10 games out gives a lot of scope for trying new talent
2. 2+ new faces from our youth. These need to be 'Everton' players, i.e. local lads like Gordon. I don't expect them to achieve what Antony's done in the last 2-3 seasons, but I wanna see that the talent is there, and that we're using it, and it's part of the future. Look what that lad's worth compared to the dross we've imported. An unsightly blight on this club in the last 10 years that we've developed so few home grown stars.Hey ho, times now changing hopefully.
3. A cup run (quarters in anything)

Youth-wise - consider the impact of not having Patt-man, it already feels like a loss given his early season form, So provided we stay up then point 2 is the most important in our development this season. I'm not saying Gana and Onana have not helped, but we're Everton. We should be producing amazing talent.

Keep at it Frank. Doing good.

It looks really competitive in the bottom half which means we will probably be in the battle in the final few games. On paper we have a decent final 3 fixtures before the break. Win 2 of them and we will have a decent gap. 19 points from 15 games based on the 40 point theory puts us in a pretty solid position. If we end up botching these games and end up a point a game or less then we are in it for the long haul. The good news for us is I am sure they will bring in another attacking player and I think we have the characters for a scrap if it comes down to that

 

[EFC78]

26 points to match last season's 39 which almost certainly guarantees safety.

Allowing for 7 wins, 5 draws and 14 defeats or also simply, a point per game on average for the rest of the season.

Last season I was quick to dismiss relegation and have already said I don't think we will be near it this time but even looking at those numbers, we should be easily capable of avoiding it

One thing we do need to do better is get draws out of games instead of defeats. The previous 3 games had us slip back to last season's ways where we didn't manage a draw from any tricky game. Every point helps.

Yesterdays result and performance was a huge step in the right direction in hopefully putting this thread to bed far earlier

 

[Steve EFC]

I didn't open this thread until yesterday and I read the last few pages. My thought was that if we're in a relegation fight now, so is the
whole bottom half and a few in the top half.
A win or two can take you right up the table and Everton's win today proves the point.

It's far too early to talk about relegation fights, even for the bottom three.

Obviously it’s changeable but we are a third of the way into the season though and we should have a fair idea how it’ll shape up now based on results and performances so far.

 

[mikel_88]

This run of games we play teams around us, hopefully we can get the points to increase the gap. With the world cup this season i would be happy anything mid table get confidence back and a set style of play. Then use the rest of the season to look for more players to push us om snother level next season

 

[coollino]

looking more likely with our win at the weekend

 

[mightyblues78]

Clearly wont be happen, people need to give the manger and squad time.

 

[MikeH72]

looking more likely with our win at the weekend

Yes. Unfortunately our result inspired Leicester, Fulham, Southampton, Villa and Forest even though they played before us, to raise their game and get positive results. Ffs Frank.

 

[heatmeiser]

UTFT ?
Yeeaaaa.


Super Frankie Lampard waaaayyyyy

Look like a bit of a bell now don't you cogsy