Relegation 2022/23

[ToffeeTim]

Mate we've won 1 away game this season, against the worst team in the league.

I don't fancy us to ever win away from home, our away form has been rancid for years ( covid season aside )

We HAVE to win at least one of our away games though and you'd say Leicester is the most winnable given the table

They are possibilities to win any of the 3 remaining away games. We just need to show more intent, be braver in possession, and maybe get a little bit of luck. Leicester, Wolves, Brighton are all tough in the circumstances, but they are not elite sides. We need to go out and earn a win at one of those grounds.

In fact we need to believe we can win any of the 6 games left. Strange results happen every year in the final month of the season, and we need to make sure we cause the unexpected results, not Leeds or Leicester or Forest or Southampton.

It all starts with mentality - does the manager set the team out to win, and do the players believe they will win. If so, we still have a chance.

 

[davek]

Mate we've won 1 away game this season, against the worst team in the league.

I don't fancy us to ever win away from home, our away form has been rancid for years ( covid season aside )

We HAVE to win at least one of our away games though and you'd say Leicester is the most winnable given the table

Horses for courses.

I dont see us losing that.

 

[Moomin]

I didn't need anti-depressants but I love the attempt to have a pop at Villa The pain of circling the plug hole for a few years in the PL was more painful than the Championship. I actually enjoyed the Championship; more games, mid-week games, very easy to watch games on iFollow, and the feeling of going into a game expecting to win and then actually winning games. There is a lot to enjoy in the Championship. The downside of the Championship is the financial impact on the club. We came within a day or so of entering administration and were sold just in time. But that is to be expected as Villa was probably at its lowest valuation and a smart investor was able to pick it up on the cheap. Some fans may not like going down as they are embarrassed to be playing in a lower league and they can't hack the slagging from fans of rival teams in the PL. But I just look at those fans that like to try and slag off my team for playing in a lower with pity that they haven't quite managed to gain a level of maturity like most adults.

That is my thinking.

We have just about survived last season and this season might go the same way and no doubt we will struggle next season as well with a potential punishment if found guilty by this commitee.

Take our medicine and get relegated so we have can have a full reset from the board, owner and the big earners off the wage bill.

 

[Simon Buttle]

Horses for courses.

I dont see us losing that.

We need to win though and Dyche has something like 1 win in 24 PL away games, a draw is not good enough.

 

[tommytowne]

I didn't need anti-depressants but I love the attempt to have a pop at Villa The pain of circling the plug hole for a few years in the PL was more painful than the Championship. I actually enjoyed the Championship; more games, mid-week games, very easy to watch games on iFollow, and the feeling of going into a game expecting to win and then actually winning games. There is a lot to enjoy in the Championship. The downside of the Championship is the financial impact on the club. We came within a day or so of entering administration and were sold just in time. But that is to be expected as Villa was probably at its lowest valuation and a smart investor was able to pick it up on the cheap. Some fans may not like going down as they are embarrassed to be playing in a lower league and they can't hack the slagging from fans of rival teams in the PL. But I just look at those fans that like to try and slag off my team for playing in a lower with pity that they haven't quite managed to gain a level of maturity like most adults.

Nicely put.

 

[Paul Rideout]

Mate we've won 1 away game this season, against the worst team in the league.

I don't fancy us to ever win away from home, our away form has been rancid for years ( covid season aside )

We HAVE to win at least one of our away games though and you'd say Leicester is the most winnable given the table

Wolves away is the one I think is our best chance.

 

[davek]

We need to win though and Dyche has something like 1 win in 24 PL away games, a draw is not good enough.

No we dont. Not if we get a point or more against Newcastle and Leicester lose away to Leeds. If they then draw with us that's the last of their factored in 'winnable' games gone and they'd be a point behind us.

 

[tommytowne]

That is my thinking.

We have just about survived last season and this season might go the same way and no doubt we will struggle next season as well with a potential punishment if found guilty by this commitee.

Take our medicine and get relegated so we have can have a full reset from the board, owner and the big earners off the wage bill.

Your final sentence possibly the only good thing to come out of a disastrous last few years

 

[everton1953]

Well, I hope we never have to experience it.

It's different for us. No one posting on here has ever seen our club in the second tier. Almost 70 years unbroken top flight status.

That wasn't the case for Villa fans.

Only Arsenal fans if they were relegation threatened could understand this current turmoil we wrestle with.

Erm. Correction. My first 2 seasons at Goodison were in div 2. 52/53 and 53/54.

 

[davek]

It's bleak

No denying that

We've just got to back the team and pray for a miracle

As supporters there's little else we can really do in the short term

Long term I think we all know what needs doing regarding the governance of this football club, but in the short term we can only do our part to drag these players over the line

We might not be able to, but we owe it to ourselves to try, because ultimately we're going to be the one constant

Players will leave/retire, mangers will leave, and one blissful day even this board will leave, but we will remain, so let's yell our lungs out and try and get a reaction from these players!

Hardly miracles we need is it?

In the relegation zone on GD and 1 point seperating us, Leicester and a Leeds team that look in freefall.

 

[COYBL25]

They are possibilities to win any of the 3 remaining away games. We just need to show more intent, be braver in possession, and maybe get a little bit of luck. Leicester, Wolves, Brighton are all tough in the circumstances, but they are not elite sides. We need to go out and earn a win at one of those grounds.

In fact we need to believe we can win any of the 6 games left. Strange results happen every year in the final month of the season, and we need to make sure we cause the unexpected results, not Leeds or Leicester or Forest or Southampton.

It all starts with mentality - does the manager set the team out to win, and do the players believe they will win. If so, we still have a chance.

We also now have a fit again and proper centre forward, rather than players playing out of position and the useless Maupay / inexperienced Simms.

Despite what Dave says, this immediately makes us a better team.

The team has a focal point, which in turn means they can keep their shape and structure, rather than hit and hope, which is what we’ve been playing.

 

[davek]

Erm. Correction. My first 2 seasons at Goodison were in div 2. 52/53 and 53/54.

You had to be too young to for that to have had any effect.

 

[Simon Buttle]

No we dont. Not if we get a point or more against Newcastle and Leicester lose away to Leeds. If they then draw with us that's the last of their factored in 'winnable' games gone and they'd be a point behind us.

Leeds won't beat Leicester and I would be astonished if we get anything against Newcastle. We need to be winning games not drawing them.

 

[ToffeeTim]

We also now have a fit again and proper centre forward, rather than players playing out of position and the useless Maupay / inexperienced Simms.

Despite what Dave says, this immediately makes us a better team.

The team has a focal point, which in turn means they can keep their shape and structure, rather than hit and hope, which is what we’ve been playing.

Yes it will help, but a lot of it comes down to mentality as well.

There are 2 big issues that we need to look at....

1. The manager sets up in games thinking a draw is a good result

2. I'm not sure the players go into away games believing they have a good chance of winning.

A bit more belief on Saturday and we would have pushed on for a winner, but instead we were happy with a draw. Obviously things change and its a good draw after the sending off, but we showed no intent prior to that either.

You also need a bit of luck in our situation. A lucky deflection, a goalkeeping howler, a favourable decision, a fluke or whatever. I'll take a win any way it comes right now

 

[Wat Tyler]

I don’t think we can ignore Forest. They play a Brighton side with 120 minutes in their legs at home where they have been good, and they still have Southampton at home to come. They’re Not down yet.