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Relegation 2022/23

Are Everton going to stay in the Premier League?

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paultheblue said:
I forgot McNiel 8m
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When u sell player you have to account for the full outstanding amortisation amounts. If Onana cost 30m that means 24m of that gets accounted for as a loss on the P&L immediately. McNeil was about 15m and upon sale, he has about 12m to be accounted for immediately on the P&L. Selling Onana for 35m would only yield about 11m profit and costs need to be taken out of that too. Selling McNeil for anything less than 12m would result in an instant loss which EFC probably can't afford to do.
 
perth_blue said:
I'm quietly looking forward to it.

A fresh challenge, new teams. Playing more often. The opportunity to properly integrate some of the younger players. Hopefully, also the opportunity to flush the board and implement a new structure that will set the tone for improvement.

I love the club, I always will. That won't change if they get relegated, that won't change if they languish in the Championship for a few years.

The current board do not deserve the supporter base Everton have, the fans will always stand by the club.

For those going through a hard time at the moment, I understand it's not an easy time. But you're born not manufactured. It may not even happen when it's all said and done, but if it does, don't stop being an Evertonian.
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I don't get this take.

Arguably we will be in a worse financial position than Sunderland were.

The players we have and the wages they are on - Pickford signed a new contract that multiple journalists confirmed doesn't have a relegation release clause in.


2022 turnover was - £181m

63% of that was broadcast income.

That gets slashed by 45% in the Championship.

So a club that lost £44m in 2022 is going to have make up a shortfall of that lost broadcast money which means gutting the players - which we'll get absolutely screwed over with because our (sellable) players are on big money contracts and other teams know we'll desperately need the cash and they'll hang us out to dry with the fees.


And then there stadium funding situation is absolutely wild. I know infrastructure costs technically don't count towards P&S / FFP but anyone looking to buy a stake in the club with that money used to fund the stadium they'll just leverage the debt against the club and wallop big % on the payback.
 

Azza said:
I don't get this take.

Arguably we will be in a worse financial position than Sunderland were.

The players we have and the wages they are on - Pickford signed a new contract that multiple journalists confirmed doesn't have a relegation release clause in.


2022 turnover was - £181m

63% of that was broadcast income.

That gets slashed by 45% in the Championship.

So a club that lost £44m in 2022 is going to have make up a shortfall of that lost broadcast money which means gutting the players - which we'll get absolutely screwed over with because our (sellable) players are on big money contracts and other teams know we'll desperately need the cash and they'll hang us out to dry with the fees.


And then there stadium funding situation is absolutely wild. I know infrastructure costs technically don't count towards P&S / FFP but anyone looking to buy a stake in the club with that money used to fund the stadium they'll just leverage the debt against the club and wallop big % on the payback.
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On the flip side.. I think this one is overly pessimistic myself.

Even with the financial situation as it is, it won't absolutely cripple the club to the extent that some believe it would. There is, for me, some merit in seeing us relegated as mad as that sounds - it's the huge dose of reality that those at the club have needed for ages and ages now.. especially Moshiri.

Also - I've just come to hate the Premier League in general, truth be told. It's a circus.
 
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Rich1878 said:
Apparently that lot are literally planning an Everton relegation Street party , on sat 28th May

And they call us obsessed
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That would reflect more pathetically on them than us.

We will be back page news for 10 minutes before everyone goes back to licking Pep and KDB. The media have already done as may “What has happened to Everton” videos and articles as they can muster. We know what’s happened. Everyone knows what’s happened. There is no more money/clicks to be had from kicking the corpse.

It will be crushing, and hurt for the rest of most of our lives unless we rebuild perfectly and quickly. But bar the odd juvenile full kit wearing RS prick, no one will give much of a toss by the 29th of May. That alone is the indication of how far we have fallen.
 
Azza said:
I don't get this take.

Arguably we will be in a worse financial position than Sunderland were.

The players we have and the wages they are on - Pickford signed a new contract that multiple journalists confirmed doesn't have a relegation release clause in.


2022 turnover was - £181m

63% of that was broadcast income.

That gets slashed by 45% in the Championship.

So a club that lost £44m in 2022 is going to have make up a shortfall of that lost broadcast money which means gutting the players - which we'll get absolutely screwed over with because our (sellable) players are on big money contracts and other teams know we'll desperately need the cash and they'll hang us out to dry with the fees.


And then there stadium funding situation is absolutely wild. I know infrastructure costs technically don't count towards P&S / FFP but anyone looking to buy a stake in the club with that money used to fund the stadium they'll just leverage the debt against the club and wallop big % on the payback.
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Add to this the cost of being competitive. You can't just sell players to recoup lost revenue, and then not replace them.

Our squad is already disjointed and unbalanced. Those players who do have value will only intensify those issues by selling them.
 

davek said:
And FFS, what on earth are you talking about here calling out "stooges" of the board in relation to people who've implacccably opposed them for decades?

You're incomprehensible.
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This is why it's so sad that you now trot out their line that the reason we're being relegated is the fans and not them. It's them, it's always been them, the fact that you're now saying that it's the fans is what is incomprehensible. You may not like it but you are acting as their stooge. Quite the fall.
 
Toffe3m4n said:
By the way - blaming Marcel Brands for all of this is one hell of a take, I must say lol
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Not blame for all of this but has played his part, nobody is free from blame. He is gone now like the rest who have gone lampard walsh ect, i dont care is the people at the club we have to look at. This is it now we have to stand up and fight for the club and get the club running the right way
 

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