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Relegation 2022/23

Are Everton going to stay in the Premier League?

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With all due respect, your comment is agreeing that the fans gave up, you are simply justifying why they gave up.

Was an awful comment with very little context of the whole night and considering the way Everton fans have tried to drag this club out of it.
I have only listened to keown a few times and a few times is already to many. He talks copious amounts of ill informed bollox.
 
The fans are emotionally exhausted, last season was horrendous and we dragged them over the line. On Thursday our fans got there 2 hours early to greet the coach, we have sold out every single away game again despite winning 3 away in 35 and you have Keown having a pop at fans for walking out at 1-4 when we have scored over one goal at Goodison once all season. It’s a tone deaf comment from him. Of all the things “an expert” should be talking about at the club, and there are millions of problems as we are clearly in crisis, fans walking out ten minutes to go really isn’t an issue.
I agree with you. Tbh, I don't like people blaming fans anyway as I think if the players can't perform to their best without fans cheering them on then they don't deserve to wear the shirt. Performances home or away or in front of a quiet crowd or a hostile crowd just have the same level of performance from the players. But commentators will always comment about fans leaving early, regardless of who the team is. Their job is to entertain the viewers, and fans leaving the ground early when their team is losing badly is easy clickbait for viewers to highlight fans giving up on their team. Yes, it doesn't acknowledge the hours of support the fans gave for the preceding 2 or 3 hours or since the season began but the sort of comment isn't clickbait.
 
The players accepted what? That we got beat by 3rd in the league who are flying. Come on. It’s these type of comments that do my head in, if we stay up you will be first to say, I knew we would stay up.

Over the complete doom of Thursday now. Think we can stay but I just don't think it's likely.

I am worried the players have started to lose belief. Tough away games to come and City at home. They know we're up against it given our form.
 
Villa fan in peace. Just lurking from Friday afternoon boredom and hope you don't mind me posting. I have a soft spot for Everton, a proper club with a lot of similarities with Villa, and I really hope you stay up. But if you do go down then I promise all is not lost. When we went down we'd been rotten for several seasons, and it was a chance to reset and detox, clear out the deadwood and start again. The championship can be a lot of fun, more competitive, less money obsessed (on the face of it anyway) and it’s likely you’ll compete at the top end of the table, when every game means something, every team is desperate to beat you (always makes winning sweeter) and you’re looking up the table rather than down. Villa’s ten game winning run to reach the playoffs, Grealish destroying defences single handedly and seeing my lad’s face at the final whistle against Derby in the play off final are all amongst my very favourite Villa memories. Best of luck for the remainder of the season.
That could be a problem.
 

I agree with you. Tbh, I don't like people blaming fans anyway as I think if the players can't perform to their best without fans cheering them on then they don't deserve to wear the shirt. Performances home or away or in front of a quiet crowd or a hostile crowd just have the same level of performance from the players. But commentators will always comment about fans leaving early, regardless of who the team is. Their job is to entertain the viewers, and fans leaving the ground early when their team is losing badly is easy clickbait for viewers to highlight fans giving up on their team. Yes, it doesn't acknowledge the hours of support the fans gave for the preceding 2 or 3 hours or since the season began but the sort of comment isn't clickbait.
I think anyone having a go at the fans ie Keown (plug) wants to aim his criticism at the board of directors who have stayed away from the ground on mass since January
 
Did Keane really slag the fans for leaving at 3-1? It was 4-1 a few seconds later and they would still have been on their way
out by then. and must have got up to go as our goal hit the net.
 

At the risk of sounding negative following that result on Thursday - the hammering despite a night time games greeted by the bus, I have made it easier in myself this morning….I am resigned to us being relegated, I think there is no question about it now so save yourself the heartache of being disappointed. Whilst I thought Sean Dyche was the right appointment to get 7s out of it, some of the things he has said, him preaching his philosophy over and over again with his corporate approach….he sounds arrogant to me….what his arrogance is based on I do not know. Whilst Frank was a god awful manager, he knew how to harness the power of the fans to mobilise and energise the players, Dyche based on his comments on the fans greeting the bus does not appear to know how to utilise the fans to build a bridge with the players. That’s even without going through some of the baffling in game decisions he makes or his lack of changes. In my opinion, we are down.
 

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