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Relegation 2022/23

Are Everton going to stay in the Premier League?

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Shibbywiggles said:
I think if we don’t beat Leicester we’re as good as done. I actually rate our chances in our last two games against Wolves and Bournemouth who should both already be on their holidays but if we stayed up by the skin of our teeth by winning the last two games back to back that would have to be the greatest of great escapes, maybe even more than 2-0 down against Wimbledon
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I never understand this….teams don’t decide to stop playing because they are safe…..we have seen time and time again when we make that assumption on the opposition, they tend to beat us
 
Bez2k2k said:
The players accepted what? That we got beat by 3rd in the league who are flying. Come on. It’s these type of comments that do my head in, if we stay up you will be first to say, I knew we would stay up.
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Why would I be the first to say I knew we would stay up? Strange comment that.

I’ve been optimistic about them turning it around, but I’ve seen enough of the dross dross in this squad first hand to know when they can’t be arsed. Didn’t you see Godfrey letting people stroll around him? Iwobi putting half arsed crossed in?

3rd in the league or not, in my opinion they gave up, the fans didn’t, and that is unforgivable.
 
CrustySack said:
We are gone. I've been an Evertonian for over 45 years and these past years have been like watching an elderly parent deteriorate to the point were you know it's only a matter of time, and that time has come.

The future is unknown. I've no idea what an Everton team looks like in the EFL. I'm in shock. The fact we didn't go down years ago under Kenwright is soley down to the spirit, reputation and history of the club.

We talk about teams like Man.City, Newcastle, West Ham, Villa and Leeds, as being teams who have witnessed relegation, but those clubs (except Villa) were never flush with success or recognised as one of the big 5 when they were relegated. We have fell from a great height. Our peers were Liverpool, Man.Utd, Arsenal and Spurs, when Kenwright took over. Those four clubs have continued to to stay at the top.
What Kenwright has been allowed to do to Everton Football Club is criminal.

We have a generation of fans who have known nothing but Kenwrights Everton. The Everton I know, the Everton that our Dads, Grandads and great Grandads knew and helped to build is unrecognizable to me today. One man, and only one man, is responsible. The Bill Kenwright version of Everton has been neglected beyond comprehension.
He took over Everton, knowing full well he didn't have the resourcers to be the clubs custodian, but he had his train set, his vehicle to further satiate his need for limelight. He has bypassed golden opportunitues to do the right thing by the club and fans, delivered nothing but lies and false promises, sold the best English talent we have produced for buttons, sold some great players to keep the banks away, all so he can keep his grubby hands on the keys. He didn't us a billionaire. He found a fool with money who would line his pockets and at the same time allow him to keep the keys and continue to take a wedge of money out of the club. We stood and watched, year on year, knowing what he was. Sorry for the rant.
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Brilliantly articulated post
 
knowing your history said:
Peter Johnson reign of terror in mid 90s pushed the club down from that bracket more than anything Kenwright did in those early years.

Look at the difference in managerial appointments. Fell out with Joe Royle and summer 1997 was apparently going to see Bobby Robson pitched up. Botched that and a few others and then Kendall came in for his third spell and everyone know 5 games in that season it was a massive error and club was very lucky to stay up.

On paper Walter Smith was a strong appointment given what he'd achieved at Rangers when Scottish football was still a reasonably strong league but aside from 99-00 it was just a very dull watch under him.

Kenwright should've sacked him sooner but his first managerial appointment was Moyes and that was undoubtedly a success considering he came in to a similar situation Lampard did and proved he could achieve solid results in the long run. Martinez for 18 months was a solid pick aswell.

Club was still 5th-7th for most of that period with reasonable aspirations to push onto top 4 so a world away from the sorry state it's in now or indeed for much of the 90s.
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Nope - what a god awful period where we only won the FA Cup and was in Europe in two of the five seasons he was in charge - Kenwright has been far worse
 

CrustySack said:
We are gone. I've been an Evertonian for over 45 years and these past years have been like watching an elderly parent deteriorate to the point were you know it's only a matter of time, and that time has come.

The future is unknown. I've no idea what an Everton team looks like in the EFL. I'm in shock. The fact we didn't go down years ago under Kenwright is soley down to the spirit, reputation and history of the club.

We talk about teams like Man.City, Newcastle, West Ham, Villa and Leeds, as being teams who have witnessed relegation, but those clubs (except Villa) were never flush with success or recognised as one of the big 5 when they were relegated. We have fell from a great height. Our peers were Liverpool, Man.Utd, Arsenal and Spurs, when Kenwright took over. Those four clubs have continued to to stay at the top.
What Kenwright has been allowed to do to Everton Football Club is criminal.

We have a generation of fans who have known nothing but Kenwrights Everton. The Everton I know, the Everton that our Dads, Grandads and great Grandads knew and helped to build is unrecognizable to me today. One man, and only one man, is responsible. The Bill Kenwright version of Everton has been neglected beyond comprehension.
He took over Everton, knowing full well he didn't have the resourcers to be the clubs custodian, but he had his train set, his vehicle to further satiate his need for limelight. He has bypassed golden opportunitues to do the right thing by the club and fans, delivered nothing but lies and false promises, sold the best English talent we have produced for buttons, sold some great players to keep the banks away, all so he can keep his grubby hands on the keys. He didn't us a billionaire. He found a fool with money who would line his pockets and at the same time allow him to keep the keys and continue to take a wedge of money out of the club. We stood and watched, year on year, knowing what he was. Sorry for the rant.
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All 100% correct. Makes me angry and sad at the same time. It’s not the same club my dad grew up supporting. When I am able to go the match with him, he tells me about the games at Goodison he has been to. His first game in the early 60s at Goodison Park. The players and success he has seen. And now this.

It pains me that I know it hurts him to see this and there is nothing I can do.
We have had decades of managed decline and the blame firmly falls at one man’s door.

It makes me think over the last number of years, should we the fans, have done more.
 

Blue peter said:
I never understand this….teams don’t decide to stop playing because they are safe…..we have seen time and time again when we make that assumption on the opposition, they tend to beat us
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Everton tend to. Last 5 seasons.

Arsenal 5 Everton 1
City 5 Everton 0
Everton 1 Bournemouth 3
Spurs 2 Everton 2
West Ham 3 Everton 1
 
Did say about a month ago West Ham could still be in trouble when no one said them, considering the games they have they will be if teams behind could actually win lol
 

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