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Relegation 2022/23

Are Everton going to stay in the Premier League?

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Coleman has scored and been crucial to attacking plans since Dyche tipped up.
Sorry didn’t realise he was the magic man in helping the team create chances from the left, through the middle and set pieces.

I get that the team has to be balanced left to right and from a defensive and attacking perspective and this can help create chances directly or indirectly. We are the lowest scorers in the entire 4 divisions of which Seamus has played a significant part.

This is why him being in the team helps defensively but not particularly offensively….other than a wonder goal against Leeds and some penetrative play. Him returning to the fold gives the team more balance and confidence but it is not a panacea for the team’s lamentable position of being unable to score goals. You have focussed one or two examples where he has been effective without looking at the general malaise. That was behind my original point.
 
Just catching up with this thread, thank you for your contributions.

Seems like some are saying “superbloos” are complicit in sending Everton down. What is a superbloo and who would they be on this forum please?
 
Im wholly on board with that mate, we have 0 creativity in the squad amate. Seamus is 34 now, he has limits - but is still our best balanced defensive and offensive full back, its criminal that we are actually still looking to him and missing him when out, he will get you up the pitch and he will prompt and support the play, often leading by example, his leadership goes without question really and we need characters and leaders in this team to where we need to go in the next few weeks - he sets the tone - look at the change in the performance levels since hes been out of the team.
Yep I agree with that mate, and I have just responded to Dave on the same point, he gives us greater balance….but he alone will not solve the issue of us being unable to create many chances…..i am confident with him in the team, we may be able to turn defeats into draws, less so turning them into wins because of the lack of creativity
 

Just catching up with this thread, thank you for your contributions.

Seems like some are saying “superbloos” are complicit in sending Everton down. What is a superbloo and who would they be on this forum please?
Not sure, but I've heard that the official definition is someone who sits in the Park End, has loved the recent 'good times' and lives on the Wirral Peninsular.*

*Full title only, please.
 
Yep I agree with that mate, and I have just responded to Dave on the same point, he gives us greater balance….but he alone will not solve the issue of us being unable to create many chances…..i am confident with him in the team, we may be able to turn defeats into draws, less so turning them into wins because of the lack of creativity

The biggest disappointment for me from Utd onward mate, is the drop of in performances -its all coincided with him not being in the team, maybe it would have happened anyway, but im curious by nature and i wonder are we missing his leadership and how that impacts performance levels and results. Its a debatable point admittedly.
 

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I hear you, but I think most managers ought to be getting more out of what we've got.

I know once you have a decent core you can then plug in the gaps, but we do have at least some decent players, all of whom are being horribly mismanaged by a manager that thinks he's far better than he actually is.

This squad is crap, granted, and should and will be relegated, but I think a decent manager doesn't see us lose 9 home games by May. Leeds are every bit as bad as us and have only lost 6 at home.

And yes we definitely do have an utterly woeful mix of rejects left behind by previous managers, that cannot be denied.

If its broken it's broken. Yes the management should be doing better but the last 3 we have employed seem to have this egotistical approach to managing the mess of a side, the last 2 in particular either shifted blame elsewhere or felt the players should manage themselves.

I keep bringing up Carlo's stint because it's IMO the only successful employment under Moshiri who was able to do the maximum he could of a broken mess. Even then you had fans saying "he doesn't do anything, leaves it to Davide, here for a paycheck". But being the best manager the game has ever seen...he never let his ego get in the way of getting results. He'd drop players for being awful, defend when needed, hoofball, moved players around to get results.

Then you need a plan from top to bottom.
 

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