Relegation 2022/23

[maccavennie]

For the masochists amongst us, here's a bit of *fun*: What's the most nerve-wracking end of the season imaginable at this stage?

I think something like this:

Leicester down and Forrest discounted for simplification.

Everton lose 1-0 to Wolves.
Leeds pick up an unlikely point away to Newcastle.

Points all square going in to the final game, Everton on -25 GD, Leeds on -24.

Final games: Deep in to 2nd half added time, Everton are 1-0 down, Leeds are 2-0 down. As it stands, points and GD are the same but Leeds are set to stay up on goals scored

Full time at Goodison Park. If it stays the same in the Leeds match, we're toast.

The Leeds game has an additional 10 minutes of added time due to injuries in the game. In the very last seconds of the match, Spurs score a third goal to make it 3-0. But VAR intervenes. It looks like the Spurs goalscorer could be offside. The VAR check takes several minutes and it looks likely that the goal will be ruled out. But, the VAR check ends and the goal stands! Leeds are going down unless they can force a goal!

Leeds sprint to restart the game and earn a corner. The ref has his whistle at his lips. The corner comes in, Leeds smash the underside of the crossbar, the ball bounces down behind the keeper, Leeds players celebrate! Goal given!

BUT! Another VAR check! We get the full works - every conceivable angle, lines drawn - the lot. Arguments can be made for and against the goal. VAR advises the referee to review! After several minutes, the referee has made his decision, walks back to the pitch and signals..........



.....no goal! Then blows his final whistle.

Everton stay up on goal difference by one goal.

I hope you enjoyed this prophetic glimpse of a possible future.

You've just made me crap my kecks and vomit at the same time.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Think we have to match the Leeds result in the penultimate game at least. Would not want to be going into the last game in the bottom 3 with it out of our hands.

 

[RomanReigns]

Think we have to match the Leeds result in the penultimate game at least. Would not want to be going into the last game in the bottom 3 with it out of our hands.

yeah im not sure if playing wolves first is a good or bad thing

good if we win cos will deflate other teams below us

bad if we draw or lose because forest will be happy, leicester can still catch us on the last day and leeds will think a point at west ham away will do for now because they will leapfrog us on goal difference

 

[Wat Tyler]

I’m preparing myself mentally for us being in the relegation zone going into the final game.

There’s been a back and forth on here on the WHU v Leeds game ad nauseum, my opinion is WHU will make 8/9 changes again like they did at the weekend and they will get beat. I understand people make out our rivals are better than what they are but there are people on here who also do the opposite.

Yes Leeds are crap but there was signs of improvement against Newcastle under a new manager, and WHU have had a stinker of a season, never mind now that it’s their B team who are going to be playing. Leeds won’t be playing for a draw, they’ll want three points and have shown at different times this season they have goals in their side.

I just can’t see us winning two back to back away games and Wolves, as has been mentioned on here, are particularly good at home.

All of this is assuming of course that Leicester do not beat Newcastle, which you would think would virtually kill them off. So if we don’t win and Leeds do, we will be hoping Arsenal do the business on Forest on Saturday night, which would mean going into the last day, we would be in the bottom three and absolutely HAVE to beat Bournemouth in the hope of catching at least one of Leeds or Forest. If it comes to that, it wouldn’t be impossible we save ourselves but no one wants to be in the relegation zone needing a win AND favours.

Anyway, I hope I’m wrong, and we are above Leeds this time next week.

 

[Paul Rideout]

yeah im not sure if playing wolves first is a good or bad thing

good if we win cos will deflate other teams below us

bad if we draw or lose because forest will be happy, leicester can still catch us on the last day and leeds will think a point at west ham away will do for now because they will leapfrog us on goal difference

I think all in all it’s great we play first. We know what we have to do and nothing is playing on our minds in terms of other results.

Win and we destroy the morale of the others down there, imagine having to win away at Newcastle to stand a chance on the last day.

Draw and it’s still not great for them.

The only issue is if we lose.

 

[Eggs]

….probably mentioned but it looks like Zaha is out for the last 2 games with a hamstring injury.

 

[PKwalnuts]

Hi Lads, first time poster and 50 years West Ham fan . Just wanted to clarify (from experience of watching Moyes thru our European games).......what he will do on Sunday against Leeds. Take it from me, regardless of the result on Thursday night v AZ, he will play an extremely strong team v Leeds. If not his absolute strongest. It will be nothing like the one v Brentford. .....And to add to this, also a bit of positivity that you will not know about. The last home game of EVERY West Ham season is seen as a celebration, a big event ....so much so that in our last 24 (last home games of the season)...we have only ever lost 3. And just to point out that since Leeds got promoted to the PL , West Ham have really had their number.....Only losing once home or away. They are a team we really like to play....and the Allardyce style will actually help us, we also hate Allardyce too. But essentially the team picked will be very, very strong.....what I can't account for is the teams state of mind after Thurs......A win on Thurs will make Sunday a big celebration......and Leeds won't handle that. So, all the best and don't worry, we will try. Moyes does still like and admire Everton. And just to add, Moyes biggest success this season at WHU has been beating teams in and around us. His record in such games is excellent. Cheers all...and thanks for reading.

God I needed I that

 

[RomanReigns]

Hi Lads, first time poster and 50 years West Ham fan . Just wanted to clarify (from experience of watching Moyes thru our European games).......what he will do on Sunday against Leeds. Take it from me, regardless of the result on Thursday night v AZ, he will play an extremely strong team v Leeds. If not his absolute strongest. It will be nothing like the one v Brentford. .....And to add to this, also a bit of positivity that you will not know about. The last home game of EVERY West Ham season is seen as a celebration, a big event ....so much so that in our last 24 (last home games of the season)...we have only ever lost 3. And just to point out that since Leeds got promoted to the PL , West Ham have really had their number.....Only losing once home or away. They are a team we really like to play....and the Allardyce style will actually help us, we also hate Allardyce too. But essentially the team picked will be very, very strong.....what I can't account for is the teams state of mind after Thurs......A win on Thurs will make Sunday a big celebration......and Leeds won't handle that. So, all the best and don't worry, we will try. Moyes does still like and admire Everton. And just to add, Moyes biggest success this season at WHU has been beating teams in and around us. His record in such games is excellent. Cheers all...and thanks for reading.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

For the masochists amongst us, here's a bit of *fun*: What's the most nerve-wracking end of the season imaginable at this stage?

I think something like this:

Leicester down and Forrest discounted for simplification.

Everton lose 1-0 to Wolves.
Leeds pick up an unlikely point away to Newcastle.

Points all square going in to the final game, Everton on -25 GD, Leeds on -24.

Final games: Deep in to 2nd half added time, Everton are 1-0 down, Leeds are 2-0 down. As it stands, points and GD are the same but Leeds are set to stay up on goals scored

Full time at Goodison Park. If it stays the same in the Leeds match, we're toast.

The Leeds game has an additional 10 minutes of added time due to injuries in the game. In the very last seconds of the match, Spurs score a third goal to make it 3-0. But VAR intervenes. It looks like the Spurs goalscorer could be offside. The VAR check takes several minutes and it looks likely that the goal will be ruled out. But, the VAR check ends and the goal stands! Leeds are going down unless they can force a goal!

Leeds sprint to restart the game and earn a corner. The ref has his whistle at his lips. The corner comes in, Leeds smash the underside of the crossbar, the ball bounces down behind the keeper, Leeds players celebrate! Goal given!

BUT! Another VAR check! We get the full works - every conceivable angle, lines drawn - the lot. Arguments can be made for and against the goal. VAR advises the referee to review! After several minutes, the referee has made his decision, walks back to the pitch and signals..........



.....no goal! Then blows his final whistle.

Everton stay up on goal difference by one goal.

I hope you enjoyed this prophetic glimpse of a possible future.

Without doubt the probably the realistic out of all the If,buts or maybes that have been put on the forum.

 

[matty1878]

Do NOT let @matty1878 read this

oh i’m not lol

 

[Mark Bisson]

For the masochists amongst us, here's a bit of *fun*: What's the most nerve-wracking end of the season imaginable at this stage?

I think something like this:

Leicester down and Forrest discounted for simplification.

Everton lose 1-0 to Wolves.
Leeds pick up an unlikely point away to Newcastle.

Points all square going in to the final game, Everton on -25 GD, Leeds on -24.

Final games: Deep in to 2nd half added time, Everton are 1-0 down, Leeds are 2-0 down. As it stands, points and GD are the same but Leeds are set to stay up on goals scored

Full time at Goodison Park. If it stays the same in the Leeds match, we're toast.

The Leeds game has an additional 10 minutes of added time due to injuries in the game. In the very last seconds of the match, Spurs score a third goal to make it 3-0. But VAR intervenes. It looks like the Spurs goalscorer could be offside. The VAR check takes several minutes and it looks likely that the goal will be ruled out. But, the VAR check ends and the goal stands! Leeds are going down unless they can force a goal!

Leeds sprint to restart the game and earn a corner. The ref has his whistle at his lips. The corner comes in, Leeds smash the underside of the crossbar, the ball bounces down behind the keeper, Leeds players celebrate! Goal given!

BUT! Another VAR check! We get the full works - every conceivable angle, lines drawn - the lot. Arguments can be made for and against the goal. VAR advises the referee to review! After several minutes, the referee has made his decision, walks back to the pitch and signals..........



.....no goal! Then blows his final whistle.

Everton stay up on goal difference by one goal.

I hope you enjoyed this prophetic glimpse of a possible future.

An hour later we are deducted 1 point for Profit and Sustainability breaches.

 

[matty1878]

You've just made me crap my kecks and vomit at the same time.

ha ha lol lol

 

[tommytowne]

Our away form has been woeful for 2 years - 4 away wins in 2 seasons against a Wolves team who have been brilliant at home this year.

Bournemouth have already spanked us twice this season - they've beat us comfortably the last 4 times we've played them.

It's going to take a big effort to get 4 points from those 2 games.

Goodison will rise to the occasion that day and carry the team to victory.
Seen in black and white, my statement above may seem like a romantic offering but I've been steadfast in my belief in that's what will happen.
It's too much for me to accept that results will go our way over the weekend guaranteeing us safety.
I'm convinced we will need to win that game, and win it is what we'll do.

 

[matty1878]

i can’t f n cope. so we need to match what leeds do but score more goals?

say if we were both level on everything on the final day after the game?

 

[Eggs]

….just looking ahead at the odds (Hills) for this weekends games, remembering we were 8-1 for both of our last two matches;

Wolves v Everton; H 13/8 D 12/5 A 13/8
Forest v Arsenal; H 9/2 D 7/2 A 8/15
W Ham v Leeds; H 13/10 D 13/5 A 19/10
Newcastle v Leicester; H 4/11 D 9/2 A 13/2