Relegation 2022/23

[brieverton]

I could understand a protest after the game, whether we stay up or not. I imagine things will be very, very tense if we do go down, and just hope that people act responsibly. The vast majority always have, and always will.

There are some extraordinary things prevailing at the club, the atrocious mismanagement, a Chairman that is about as hard to shift as some despot dictator, a board that holds the clubs own supporters in open contempt, the FFP Charge, and the appalling financial profligacy that goes with it.

With the exception of the stadium, things just seem to go from bad to worse.

I would not support anything before or during a game, but after a game, and particularly at the end of a season, is different. There is no particularly good time to protest, but some times are better than others. I completely understand the feeling that enough is enough.

The club and supporters have no right to anything, but in comparison with most other clubs, and over a series of decades, Everton has been mismanaged on a scale more than most. We're on the brink of relegation, and according to some, if that happens, potential administration. If that does not happen, then either way, a very difficult period ahead.

We cannot continue as we have been, circling the drains, If not on Sunday, then relegation is bound to come and will come without substantial and meaningful change.

 

[Curtis]

I'm fearful if we go down it could be a leeds like implosion with how precarious our financial state seems to be , I think if we go in trying to win with some inertia and positive things can happen like at Brighton. No caginess and we'll be safe

 

[JLW]

It's their choice and their right I suppose, but I cant get my head around the people who say they'll walk out on the final whistle, apparently wanting to drum up some mass flounce.

We've been in two relegation threatened seasons on the bounce. Do some people believe we have the right not to be involved in those?

I get that it would be a statement against the poor governance of the club, but this is football at the very top level. There's no certainties even if you are well governed.

Other clubs face this a lot. We've been very fortunate to only have had to face 4 such seasons in the last 70.

Maybe remember that before flouncing...and saying that's what you'll do undermines the effort before the game too.

Do you suggest we celebrate? I know many will because of the emotion they carry for the club.

Of course their are no certainties we have to earn the right to be in the PL, we are not in this mess because we have been assembling a squad on a shoestring budget, then our current position could be excused but its not, its down to the running of the club as we all know.

We have all gone far too long deprived of anything that resembles success, its not acceptable!

Just read around the forum of what we all dream of over the last decade CL football, Top 6 ,Top 10, consolidate 12th, '"i would bite ye hand off for 17th next season" None of that is success if we achieved any of the above.

We have a generation of supporter's who only know us as middle of the road nothing PL club and they spend their hard earned cash following this club the length and breadth of the country.

We should absolutely walk out after the game when the fans have done their part.
What have they given us to merit a celebration, underperformed at every level of the club from board level to the pitch.

Boo them off after safety is confirmed.

 

[allen]

I could understand a protest after the game, whether we stay up or not. I imagine things will be very, very tense if we do go down, and just hope that people act responsibly. The vast majority always have, and always will.

There are some extraordinary things prevailing at the club, the atrocious mismanagement, a Chairman that is about as hard to shift as some despot dictator, a board that holds the clubs own supporters in open contempt, the FFP Charge, and the appalling financial profligacy that goes with it.

With the exception of the stadium, things just seem to go from bad to worse.

I would not support anything before or during a game, but after a game, and particularly at the end of a season, is different. There is no particularly good time to protest, but some times are better than others. I completely understand the feeling that enough is enough.

The club and supporters have no right to anything, but in comparison with most other clubs, and over a series of decades, Everton has been mismanaged on a scale more than most. We're on the brink of relegation, and according to some, if that happens, potential administration. If that does not happen, then either way, a very difficult period ahead.

We cannot continue as we have been, circling the drains, If not on Sunday, then relegation is bound to come and will come without substantial and meaningful change.

The very best time for a protest would be after the match, with us having stayed up.

Demonstrate that the catharsis of staying in the league is not sufficient, that we are still serious about fundamental change.

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

No longer humouring the idea of going down. We have to win, so we will. That’s the only thought I’m entertaining.

 

[Rodebaard]

Good question that. I think Chris Sutton was still at Blackburn when they went down, possibly a couple of others but I know he was because he only joined Chelsea the following summer.

Forgot about Blackburn. According to this, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998–99_Blackburn_Rovers_F.C._season and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994–95_Blackburn_Rovers_F.C._season (assuming they are right), Chris Sutton had already gone. But there are a few in there that I can see, Tim Flowers being the main one that I can remember

 

[Neiler]

Paul Joyce reporting Myko and Onana doubts for Sun.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

Journo at the presser has just asked if Dyche would rather be in our position or Leicester's, where do they find these guys?

 

[HKContractDave]

Journo at the presser has just asked if Dyche would rather be in our position or Leicester's, where do they find these guys?

Twitter

 

[blue to the bone]

Paul Joyce reporting Myko and Onana doubts for Sun.

Dyche said onana is fit to play
Myko trained today and will be assessed

 

[Daytripper]

I could understand a protest after the game, whether we stay up or not. I imagine things will be very, very tense if we do go down, and just hope that people act responsibly. The vast majority always have, and always will.

There are some extraordinary things prevailing at the club, the atrocious mismanagement, a Chairman that is about as hard to shift as some despot dictator, a board that holds the clubs own supporters in open contempt, the FFP Charge, and the appalling financial profligacy that goes with it.

With the exception of the stadium, things just seem to go from bad to worse.

I would not support anything before or during a game, but after a game, and particularly at the end of a season, is different. There is no particularly good time to protest, but some times are better than others. I completely understand the feeling that enough is enough.

The club and supporters have no right to anything, but in comparison with most other clubs, and over a series of decades, Everton has been mismanaged on a scale more than most. We're on the brink of relegation, and according to some, if that happens, potential administration. If that does not happen, then either way, a very difficult period ahead.

We cannot continue as we have been, circling the drains, If not on Sunday, then relegation is bound to come and will come without substantial and meaningful change.

What has transpired here over the years is unacceptable. It’s no wonder so many are quiet, some are culpable in this because they have refused to acknowledge the issues because it’s not in their own self interest.

There’s no way im going to town or a local bar afterwards. particularly if we are relegated. Roasting weather, people drinking for hours, one wrong word from someone and it kicks off.

 

[bicycleheader]

It's their choice and their right I suppose, but I cant get my head around the people who say they'll walk out on the final whistle, apparently wanting to drum up some mass flounce.

We've been in two relegation threatened seasons on the bounce. Do some people believe we have the right not to be involved in those?

I get that it would be a statement against the poor governance of the club, but this is football at the very top level. There's no certainties even if you are well governed.

Other clubs face this a lot. We've been very fortunate to only have had to face 4 such seasons in the last 70.

Maybe remember that before flouncing...and saying that's what you'll do undermines the effort before the game too.

Sorry I had to come back to this again, as even if you are doing your look at me schtick it’s a pretty audacious change in the script and sets the tone for your summer input

Just to clarify, you are moving from a “blame the fans” style argument saying they need to shut up until we are safe, to a new “blame the fans” style argument saying don’t protest with a Kenwrightian twist of “you’ve had relatively good times compared to other clubs”

Impressive

I like the dismissive and condescending addition of flounce to belittle your new mortal enemies, the disgruntled match going fan. (I’d assume the enemy used to be the happy-clapping match going fan, but hey you are going in a different artistic direction these days)

 

[Evertonthat]

Since the end of that Newcastle-Leicester game the nerves left me.

I'm ok going into this game because we are in a far better position than I ever expected to be for most of the last 5 weeks or so.

Two points ahead of two appalling teams with a game at home against a better team than ours but a non-elite team nevertheless.

I'll be anxious when the game comes round on Sunday, but not before then.

Each to their own. I'm nervous already! We could very easily get relegated on Sunday.

While we are in a better position than the other two teams, staying up relies on our team showing up and putting in a shift to get a win. This is something that they have consistently failed to do for the last 2 seasons, baring the odd exception.

Yes, we could lose and still stay up, but Leicester or Leeds are capable of pulling a win out of the bag, as bad as they have been.

I just dont trust our team to be able to pull off a win when they need it most.

 

[JohnRoss23]

The other teams around us have given us so many opportunities to secure our place in the Premier League for the 23/24 season. Any other year we would be mathematically gone by now. Another lifeline has been given to us and if we don't take advantage of this one, we are going down. We are riddled with injuries, lack of talent, and a board who doesn't show any sort of leadership. Sunday comes down to the players, Dyche and his staff, and Goodison. Come on, Everton!!

 

[Leedsfan1919]

Each to their own. I'm nervous already! We could very easily get relegated on Sunday.

While we are in a better position than the other two teams, staying up relies on our team showing up and putting in a shift to get a win. This is something that they have consistently failed to do for the last 2 seasons, baring the odd exception.

Yes, we could lose and still stay up, but Leicester or Leeds are capable of pulling a win out of the bag, as bad as they have been.

I just dont trust our team to be able to pull off a win when they need it most.

We are not, would also be very surprised if Leicester do. I don't think you will need to win.