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Relegation 23/24 Thread

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ToffeeTim said:
I don't agree with this luck argument. I think it's really clutching at straws.

If we have the same personnel playing regularly throughout the season we will continue to struggle and will miss clear chances, because the players are not good enough.

This is not a hard luck issue. This is a quality and ability issue. We need better players, because you can't rely on luck over a season.
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I can’t get behind the idea that we were the second lowest scorers in the whole league last season and have continued that into this season because of luck.
 
MikeH72 said:
I can’t get behind the idea that we were the second lowest scorers in the whole league last season and have continued that into this season because of luck.
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I find it baffling

Just as baffling as all the posts saying how we will be absolutely fine. We've had these posts for 2 years now and they've obviously been proved wrong since we barely survived twice.
 
Aries said:
Never known such a bed wetting fan base it’s bizarre. “We’ve gone” “we’re not getting out of it this time” ffs give your heads a wobble. We’ve made a cr@p start yes, but were very unlucky in the two home games where we should have won both.

We have quality to come back in to the side from injury, and have a striker at the very least incoming. Beto, McNeil, Harrison, DCL and Iwobi makes a huge difference. I don’t see any of this quality in any of the three promoted sides. Has anyone looked at Burnley’s starting 11 today? They don’t have genuine Premier League quality and neither do the other two promoted sides.

It’ll probably take the fewest points on record to survive this year, finishing 17th or above really isn’t going to be difficult. We’ll manage it very comfortably so stop running around as if your hairs on fire and calm down.
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Probably because Everton have been circling the drain for the last 2 years and NOTHING has been done to change course.

And what you describe as ‘quality’ is a very low bar. Iwobi? The constantly injured DCL?

And I’m sick of hearing this ‘should have won the 2 home games’. How ‘should’ we have won them? You have to score goals to win games and we’re incapable of scoring. Not only that, we conceded, so it’s not like only our scoring limitations prevented us from winning. We couldn’t even draw!
 
ToffeeTim said:
I find it baffling

Just as baffling as all the posts saying how we will be absolutely fine. We've had these posts for 2 years now and they've obviously been proved wrong since we barely survived twice.
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We’ve played two of our more winnable home fixtures and picked up 0 points out of them. Incredible that anyone can think we’ll be easily safe. Delusional almost.
 


Blue peter said:
That just means we are not finishing the way we should do. If done properly, given that chances we have had, no goalie should be saving them. We are just very very poor in front of goal, and have been for two years. Yes we need a striker, that is the most pressing needs but we also need a better contribution of goals from around the team.
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That's my reason for optimism. We have a striker coming in that should be able to the score goals that we are creating (Beto, Chermiti) and we have much better wide attacking options than last year (Harrison and Danjuma). Add in a fit McNeil, a potential extra wide incoming like Sulemana, and we will be ok.

DCL hasn't played in either game that we have created chances either. He is not one we can rely on but he will be an option through the season.

A starting frontline of the below should have enough goals in it (with added depth of Chermiti, Doucoure, Iwobi, Dobbin and a potential incoming).

DCL/Beto
Danjuma McNeil Harrison

Overall the above mix is a lot better than what we had in the second half of last season.
 

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