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davek said:
They defo got a bounce.

If I was Burnley's owners I;d forget about a new manager and go with Jackson...and yet, he's got no experience of dealing with a loss or two and knowing how to contain it.
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My concern is that Burnley and many of the players have been here before: they’re a team in the true sense of the word; they have experience of a fight.

Irrespective of Jackson’s influence, they may be able to motivate and manage themselves to some extent, which is more than you can say for our squad.

I’ve said it multiple times that we do not look like a team either tactically or as a collective unit. Some still appear to have their head in the sand.

If we drop into the bottom three, do you trust this lot of players to pull their socks up and get us out of it? Right now, sadly, I don’t.
 
PhilM said:
My concern is that Burnley and many of the players have been here before: they’re a team in the true sense of the word; they have experience of a fight.

Irrespective of Jackson’s influence, they may be able to motivate and manage themselves to some extent, which is more than you can say for our squad.

I’ve said it multiple times that we do not look like a team either tactically or as a collective unit. Some still appear to have their head in the sand.
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He literally said last night...

The lads have remembered who they are. They came together and remembered what they represent.


Sounds to me like they've had a few choice words and provided unity.
 
It won't feel real until the fixture list comes out, we play the League Cup First Round in July and are the main game on a Friday night in the first week of August. Tell the players what possibly awaits them and hope it kicks them into gear.
 
davek said:
They defo got a bounce.

If I was Burnley's owners I;d forget about a new manager and go with Jackson...and yet, he's got no experience of dealing with a loss or two and knowing how to contain it.
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I’m hoping the Southampton game will be an anomaly - they were so poor last night bar a brief twenty minute spell where they bought che adams on and he missed two sitters. I reckon Wolves will be much tougher for them, lose that and it changes things again.

Ultimately we have to match their results now. Sunday is the only time id say we have close to zero chance of grabbing something so I dare say that Burnley v Wolves is the latest ‘biggest game of the season’.

We could very well go down, but I can also very well see Burnley fall off the wagon again. I’m looking at the positives that we are now two games unbeaten for the first time till October…just typical the Derby is next.
 

PhilM said:
My concern is that Burnley and many of the players have been here before: they’re a team in the true sense of the word; they have experience of a fight.

Irrespective of Jackson’s influence, they may be able to motivate and manage themselves to some extent, which is more than you can say for our squad.

I’ve said it multiple times that we do not look like a team either tactically or as a collective unit. Some still appear to have their head in the sand.

If we drop into the bottom three, do you trust this lot of players to pull their socks up and get us out of it? Right now, sadly, I don’t.
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...but dont forget these 'experienced relegation fighters' of Burnley went to the very worst team in the PL and were beaten comfortably with barely a fight in them.

Wait'll Burnley suffer a loss under Jackson. They'll lose momentum very quickly and probably the board will panic and appoint a manager for the final 4 games or so.
 
The Penalty Box Dancer said:
It won't feel real until the fixture list comes out, we play the League Cup First Round in July and are the main game on a Friday night in the first week of August. Tell the players what possibly awaits them and hope it kicks them into gear.
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Unfortunately what awaits the majority of players is another juicy contract and a fat sign on bonus elsewhere. Their agents will sort the majority of them out and their lives will move on.
 
steven said:
I’m hoping the Southampton game will be an anomaly - they were so poor last night bar a brief twenty minute spell where they bought che adams on and he missed two sitters. I reckon Wolves will be much tougher for them, lose that and it changes things again.

Ultimately we have to match their results now. Sunday is the only time id say we have close to zero chance of grabbing something so I dare say that Burnley v Wolves is the latest ‘biggest game of the season’.

We could very well go down, but I can also very well see Burnley fall off the wagon again. I’m looking at the positives that we are now two games unbeaten for the first time till October…just typical the Derby is next.
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Southampton was their banker game. Sunday is a day we try and hunker down ourselves and hope the damage is limited.

Then we move into the last phase of the relegation fight with a game in hand and all to play for.

There is no other way to view this.

We still have this in our own hands. I hope today no one listens too intently to the cry babies and arrested development types on here. Not a man amongst them.
 
Sorry to be the pessimist but people saying that 9-10 points from the remaining fixtures will be enough to keep us up.

Right, that's fine, but the question remains still, where are those points coming from?

Pool and Chelsea are near guaranteed losses.
Leicester and Watford away from home. (Away fixtures, need I say more?)
Brentford and Palace at home are probably the only winnable of the remaining fixtures and will NOT be pushovers.
Arsenal away from home? Would these players have the bottle?
 
MrGrumpy said:
I’m just being realistic, going down will be hell for Everton, no point sugar coating it.
It’s still in our own hands, no matter their result vs Wolves we still control our fate.
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You don't know that for a fact though mate. You're probably right but there's zero point in speculating about potential doomsday scenarios before they've even happened imo.
 

tommytowne said:
Still a sickening amount of our lot saying that relegation may not be a bad thing for us.
Get this effing straight, Everton and The Championship do not belong in the same sentence.
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whoever saying it’s good in another ten years time when we’re still they’re. erm ok

i’m 41 i will probably be dead by the time we come back.

relegation ends this football club no two ways about it.
 
jinkyali said:
He literally said last night...

The lads have remembered who they are. They came together and remembered what they represent.


Sounds to me like they've had a few choice words and provided unity.
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Unity and being a team is a massive catalyst for success, and not having such attributes is a catalyst for failure. For me, we’re the epitome of the latter.

I’ve said it multiple times, I've not felt there's been a team for a very long time this season, and you could look at the likes of United and see similar traits.

Personally, I've never bought into the whole argument of we're a rubbish squad: we're not world beaters and there's dross, but it's not as poor as some say.

The issue is that we do not play as a cohesive unit, with a model and style. They don't play for each other nor is there a mentality of grit and determination.

The sum of each individual part doesn't add up to the whole if there isn't that togetherness. I am concerned that Burnley have a worse squad but they have it.

@davek I hope so. I'm trying to be positive here and thinking we could still go into the derby ahead and with potentially two games in hand.
 

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