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Houghty19 said:
There's a lot of if's and maybes in that but i think there's a whammy of a force majeure on its way into the accounts because of the Russian problem that will wipe out a massive chunk of debt along the lines of the covid £170m. Moshiris already got away with that one he'll do it again. Another covid write down will be put on on the next accounts also which wont be in the same magnitude if the £170m but will be substantial. Players may get sold for under market value but the nucleus of the team will remain. There willbe no fire sale at Everton cos one thing moshiri has to do is protect his investment. Only my thoughts but i really honestly don't think it'll be as bad as people think.
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I think you're being very hopeful there mate

I know this - Everton need to raise money if we stay up and that's why it's imperative we do
 
Ruairi77 said:
here's my current thoughts on relegation. I say current because it always seems to change.

I was angry after the Norwich defeat, Depressed after Newcastle away, Feeling sorry for my self after City at home, resigned after Burnley away and now entering a stage of acceptance.

I know Esk and all the other financial types say it's suicide and the worlds end but it may not be too bad.
I think it will force the clubs hand to have a massive clear out.
I think it will see the end of Kenwright and several of his acolytes.
Unfortunately that might include Ferguson, who is in the same boat as Unsworth for me.
I actually hope they keep DBB as I think she's done a reasonably good job so far.

So we head in to the 22/23 season with a new chairman and some new board members. An ambitious young manager and DoF, both who know the championship, BMD still on track and lots of deadwood players moved on.

As for the playing side of things, I'd say Pickford, Allan, Richarlison, Delph, Gomes, Keane, Mina, Dele, VDB, Tosun and possibly DCL, Doucoure, and holgate will all move on. There's probably about 100m plus and no need to spend big on incoming transfers.
Of all of those players definitely leaving, only Pickford and Dele stay if we stay up.
I'm not sure what the deal is with Sigurdsson.

That leaves a first team of Begovic, Patterson, Brantwaith, Godfrey, Mykolenko, Davies, Iwobi, Townsend, Gray, Gordon, Rondon. With a backup team of Lonergam (or new young keeper), Coleman, Kenny, Nkonku, Warrington, Price, Onyango, Simms, Dobbin

All that is without including DCL, Doucoure or Holgate. I've a feeling, after this disaster of a season, DCL won't get the move he wants to a big side and might be convinced to play one season in the championship to find his form again.

That first team is just missing a good defensive midfielder and possibly a better striker.
The squad is missing some center halves and holding midfielders.
I'm sure lots of the top PL teams will be looking to loan players not getting a shot to Everton in the championship where they pose no threat.
I'm also sure Lampard will be a draw for young players.

So there you are.
- Stadium still on track.
- New chairman and board members moving away from the kenwright era.
- Good young manager and DoF still at the club
- Sell 100m plus of players to help with financial hit.
- Left with a good young hungry first team and some good squad players
- Actually might be able to create a winning mentality and build momentum hopefully for promotion.

All that said, I'd still rather stay in the premier league obviously but we'd still lose our south american players, still have kenwright at the top of the heap and be battling for the glory days of coming 7th and winning nothing.
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That’s all assuming Moshiri doesn’t scapegoat Lampard and burn it all to the ground to try and deflect from the fact that it’s largely his own fault.
 
Houghty19 said:
There's a lot of if's and maybes in that but i think there's a whammy of a force majeure on its way into the accounts because of the Russian problem that will wipe out a massive chunk of debt along the lines of the covid £170m. Moshiris already got away with that one he'll do it again. Another covid write down will be put on on the next accounts also which wont be in the same magnitude if the £170m but will be substantial. Players may get sold for under market value but the nucleus of the team will remain. There willbe no fire sale at Everton cos one thing moshiri has to do is protect his investment. Only my thoughts but i really honestly don't think it'll be as bad as people think.
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What Moshiri wants wont matter. We will have to comply with new tougher FFP rules. I can guarantee it will be far far worse than you think! Sure, we may get rid of some deadwood, but we will also get rid of plenty we want to keep. If we don’t get out immediately, the club will essentially be forced to downsize massively. The income would be a small fraction of what we get. It would£ be Armageddon.
 
Bluestar said:
What Moshiri wants wont matter. We will have to comply with new tougher FFP rules. I can guarantee it will be far far worse than you think! Sure, we may get rid of some deadwood, but we will also get rid of plenty we want to keep. If we don’t get out immediately, the club will essentially be forced to downsize massively. The income would be a small fraction of what we get. It would£ be Armageddon.
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yep in every aspect this club will melt


we have to stay up
 



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