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BlueToff said:
Thanks mate

Still, if you wanna come back to me with all these examples I'm happy to be a whopper who was proved wrong
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You know what, as sad as this makes me, I decided to have a look at the highlights from two games that stood out in my memory as being particularly egregious.



2:10, you'll see what appears to be an elderly woman being mugged by a fella who is actually more than 10 years her senior.



0:22, and uh oh, it looks like our water carrier has sprung a leak.
 
I've started down a rabbit hole now.



0:48, it looks like he's well in control as he brings the ball out of defence, but wait! Danger lurks off camera.



0:27, you've got to hold and give, but do it at the right time...

I will say, though, having gone through quite a few of these highlights from last season now, that Rodriguez lad was good.
 
Carlito said:
You know what, as sad as this makes me, I decided to have a look at the highlights from two games that stood out in my memory as being particularly egregious.



2:10, you'll see what appears to be an elderly woman being mugged by a fella who is actually more than 10 years her senior.



0:22, and uh oh, it looks like our water carrier has sprung a leak.
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Yep, nice one. I was actually thinking of that Burnley game myself but I remember him not playing as a six in that one so couldn't think if I'd got it mixed up with that or Villa (those two games blur into one). Similarly, he made some bad errors doing other things - like giving away the needless corner I mentioned before.

If you've found the two examples that are most egregious then, while examples of bad mistakes, doesn't mean he did them twice a game.

I remember him having an excellent game v Sheff Utd away, for example, playing that deeper role, and one of S'ton/West Brom last March (I think the former). He also did brilliantly in the derby at Anfield.

But as I said in the post to which you called me a whopper, if we stay up I think he should leave. I'm just being realistic and think he'd have been better playing in midfield than Holgate this season and that if we do go down he'll be able to be useful to help us get back up, because that's really what his level is and it means money that is likely to be short in supply can be focused elsewhere.
 
Carlito said:
I've started down a rabbit hole now.



0:48, it looks like he's well in control as he brings the ball out of defence, but wait! Danger lurks off camera.



0:27, you've got to hold and give, but do it at the right time...

I will say, though, having gone through quite a few of these highlights from last season now, that Rodriguez lad was good.
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Can't watch those vids, James was very good, shame he got chased
 

@Carlito your second post

The pass v Fulham, Richarlison gets shrugged off way too easy though it was a reckless pass. However, you use that as an example of Davies being bad but in the Burnley one isn't that Keane's bad pass to Davies then? By your logic?

City are one of the best pressing teams - if not the best - on the planet. They just pressed Real Madrid into oblivion never mind Tom Davies.

He made two errors leading to a shot last season, and one error leading to a goal (v City). I think the Burnley one should count too, myself, personally.

Anyway, if he's gonna play, at all, it has to be number six. That's all I was saying. He'd have allowed us to play 433 more if he'd been fit. We wouldn't have had to go with Holgate-Doucoure in midfield. Maybe it might have helped.
 
BlueToff said:
@Carlito your second post

The pass v Fulham, Richarlison gets shrugged off way too easy though it was a reckless pass. However, you use that as an example of Davies being bad but in the Burnley one isn't that Keane's bad pass to Davies then? By your logic?

City are one of the best pressing teams - if not the best - on the planet. They just pressed Real Madrid into oblivion never mind Tom Davies.

He made two errors leading to a shot last season, and one error leading to a goal (v City). I think the Burnley one should count too, myself, personally.

Anyway, if he's gonna play, at all, it has to be number six. That's all I was saying. He'd have allowed us to play 433 more if he'd been fit. We wouldn't have had to go with Holgate-Doucoure in midfield. Maybe it might have helped.
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You can point the finger at Richarlison, Keane or whoever else. I don't care for any of them. This team is in relegation fight because the quality of player has been getting steadily worse for years, with Davies just happening to be one of the worst of the lot.

Those clips are only 2-3 minutes of goals and big chances, and he still manages to distinguish himself. Also, the Burnley one is a perfect example of why I don't refer to stats when it comes to a team whose games I watch every minute of. You could have blagged me that it never happened if I hadn't been petty enough to go back and look.
 

Carlito said:
You know what, as sad as this makes me, I decided to have a look at the highlights from two games that stood out in my memory as being particularly egregious.



2:10, you'll see what appears to be an elderly woman being mugged by a fella who is actually more than 10 years her senior.



0:22, and uh oh, it looks like our water carrier has sprung a leak.
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does it make me even sadder that I actually watched those clips again, lol


*what is making it even worse for me now, is that i cant stop the video playing on repeat, hellllllllllp! Im sure my boss is a kopite and has noticed im on GOT again and has stuck some odd virus on it and its now on repeat, make it stop!
 
Carlito said:
You can point the finger at Richarlison, Keane or whoever else. I don't care for any of them. This team is in relegation fight because the quality of player has been getting steadily worse for years, with Davies just happening to be one of the worst of the lot.

Those clips are only 2-3 minutes of goals and big chances, and he still manages to distinguish himself. Also, the Burnley one is a perfect example of why I don't refer to stats when it comes to a team whose games I watch every minute of. You could have blagged me that it never happened if I hadn't been petty enough to go back and look.
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Well all I'm saying is you have to be consistent. You point the finger at Davies in the Fulham example, because he plays the pass. Yet in the Burnley example you point the finger at Davies even though it's Keane who plays the reckless pass. Which actually feeds into why technically it didn't go down as an error from Davies in the stats (but the one where he basically sits on the ball for ages v City does)

I don't disagree with your general point. I find it strange blaming a specific player who hasn't been fit this season though and would surely have been better than a) having to play two in midfield or b) having to play Mason Holgate in midfield
 
BlueToff said:
Well all I'm saying is you have to be consistent. You point the finger at Davies in the Fulham example, because he plays the pass. Yet in the Burnley example you point the finger at Davies even though it's Keane who plays the reckless pass. Which actually feeds into why technically it didn't go down as an error from Davies in the stats (but the one where he basically sits on the ball for ages v City does)

I don't disagree with your general point. I find it strange blaming a specific player who hasn't been fit this season though and would surely have been better than a) having to play two in midfield or b) having to play Mason Holgate in midfield
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I doubt I'd have mentioned him if others hadn't brought him up.

I also very much doubt that having him available would have helped matters, but then nothing does more for a player's reputation than not playing, and there's no way of proving that he wouldn't have made all the difference for some reason or other.
 

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