billyblue80
Player Valuation: £70m
Up to 40m according to the Times still eye watering
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Confirmed Signing Richarlison
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Deulofeumygod
Player Valuation: £35m
My favourite thing from the Watford forum:
I'm surprised to find that despite everything that's gone on with Everton, I still have a little bit of pity for them.
They're going to repeat exactly what they did last season, aren't they? Pish away vast amounts of money on players that can't quite cut it. Let's remind ourselves:-
£28.5 million for Keane from Burnley. We saw how much Burnley missed him. Complete flop at Everton.
£27.5 million for Klaasen from Ajax. Absolutely stank. An expensive embarrassment. Barely got a game.
£28.5 million for absurd, puff-chested, military-combed, relegation regular and world cup flapper Jordan Pickwick.
£22.5 million for lumbering neanderthal thug forward Tonk Cussem (sp?). A player for whom the term 'battering ram' is a mild understatement. His major (only) contribution to the game the last time we saw him was obliterating the skilful Deulofeu and putting him out for the rest of the season. Makes Andy Carrol look like Pele. An anti-footballer.
£Megawages for lock-up-your-granny, spud-headed, fatboy Rooney. A tragic, past-his-sell-by-date, parody of a player. Now he's gone he says he didn't want to be a dead weight on them. Too late my old sponge and custard. You already spent a season doing that.
I'm quite confident that Richarlison, if he goes, will be another addition to this sad catalogue of failure and wasted millions for them. Yes he's quite young, but so is Mbappe and it doesn't seem to affect him too much. He hasn't got the cool head in front of goal that a deadly striker has and that (for me) can't be taught, it's something that comes naturally. He's greedy and doesn't appear to see his team mates as soon as he gets within 30 yards of goal. It's a blaze for glory every single time. He's got a tendency to throw himself around at the slightest touch and gobs off way, way too much. I think the purple patch of a dozen or so games when he first came was simply because he was unknown, in the same way as Odion Ighalo was at first. There's no video of him to show to the opposition. No pattern of play for them to point out and plan against. But after a few games, when a little bank of such material is built up, the player is found out and neutralised. Some are good enough to vary things up and make things much more difficult for the defenders. Others are one dimensional and can do nothing - that was Ighalo and that is Richarlison.
Everton have flirted with relegation for a few seasons. With these hopeless over-priced signings and the damage from the malign self-interest of fork-tongued Sssilva, I reckon they might be surprise candidates to go down either this season or next. And once they do, they're sure to go the way of Sunderland and Villa....
I'm surprised to find that despite everything that's gone on with Everton, I still have a little bit of pity for them.
They're going to repeat exactly what they did last season, aren't they? Pish away vast amounts of money on players that can't quite cut it. Let's remind ourselves:-
£28.5 million for Keane from Burnley. We saw how much Burnley missed him. Complete flop at Everton.
£27.5 million for Klaasen from Ajax. Absolutely stank. An expensive embarrassment. Barely got a game.
£28.5 million for absurd, puff-chested, military-combed, relegation regular and world cup flapper Jordan Pickwick.
£22.5 million for lumbering neanderthal thug forward Tonk Cussem (sp?). A player for whom the term 'battering ram' is a mild understatement. His major (only) contribution to the game the last time we saw him was obliterating the skilful Deulofeu and putting him out for the rest of the season. Makes Andy Carrol look like Pele. An anti-footballer.
£Megawages for lock-up-your-granny, spud-headed, fatboy Rooney. A tragic, past-his-sell-by-date, parody of a player. Now he's gone he says he didn't want to be a dead weight on them. Too late my old sponge and custard. You already spent a season doing that.
I'm quite confident that Richarlison, if he goes, will be another addition to this sad catalogue of failure and wasted millions for them. Yes he's quite young, but so is Mbappe and it doesn't seem to affect him too much. He hasn't got the cool head in front of goal that a deadly striker has and that (for me) can't be taught, it's something that comes naturally. He's greedy and doesn't appear to see his team mates as soon as he gets within 30 yards of goal. It's a blaze for glory every single time. He's got a tendency to throw himself around at the slightest touch and gobs off way, way too much. I think the purple patch of a dozen or so games when he first came was simply because he was unknown, in the same way as Odion Ighalo was at first. There's no video of him to show to the opposition. No pattern of play for them to point out and plan against. But after a few games, when a little bank of such material is built up, the player is found out and neutralised. Some are good enough to vary things up and make things much more difficult for the defenders. Others are one dimensional and can do nothing - that was Ighalo and that is Richarlison.
Everton have flirted with relegation for a few seasons. With these hopeless over-priced signings and the damage from the malign self-interest of fork-tongued Sssilva, I reckon they might be surprise candidates to go down either this season or next. And once they do, they're sure to go the way of Sunderland and Villa....
billyblue80
Player Valuation: £70m
Ha ha it was meant to be a link to the times
That was a month and a half ago.
Toast
Player Valuation: £80m
Pretty bang on to be fair.
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £100m
You'd almost think we finished below Watford and they had won major honors in their history after reading that
Encoder
Player Valuation: £35m
Too complimentary if anything.
Hang on, they forgot to mention the massive wedge we wasted on Sigurdsson!
tonk cussem new signing lads
AmericasToffee
Player Valuation: £40m
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Class player mate and someone who fits the type of profile you were looking for...big strong physical with pace--and solid defensive work for a winger.
He reminds me alot of Rivaldo, the way they both run and how Rivaldo used to get the ball down the pitch then pass/cross with either foot.
Potentially a special player.
Richarlison plays on the left and Malcom on the right.
Certainly appears as if Malcom is off to Roma which is a shame.
Would have been nice to have them both...Brazilian wingers.
billyblue80
Player Valuation: £70m
Interesting quotes from Tim Vickery last year:
Recent results – and that late collapse against Swansea – might hint at an idea that Watford are starting to run out of steam. But there still seems to be plenty of gas left in the tank of Richarlison, the young Brazilian who has done so well since joining the Hornets from Fluminense.
His bright start is all the more remarkable given the fact that he has played through 2017 without a break. And he got the year under way in January with the punishing calendar of the South American Under-20 Championship.
There, Richarlison lined up in his customary position – wide on the left, looking to cut in, a mixture of wide striker and centre-forward. On the other wing was David Neres, now of Ajax. In the middle was Douglas Luz, since picked up and loaned out by Manchester City.
And yet Brazil could not even secure one of the continent’s four places in the World Under-20 Cup, where England overcame Venezuela in the final. All Brazil had to do in their last game was beat an already eliminated Colombia. But Richarlison, David Neres and company made little impression; the game finished goalless and Brazil were out.
Back he went to Fluminense of Rio, where he enjoyed some highs and lows. He scored some, made some – but came up short on some of the big occasions. I watched him many times in the stadium, and recall him making little impression on a pair of 2-0 home defeats (in league and cup) to South American champions Gremio, or in the two finals of the Rio State Championship. The presenter of the Brazilian TV show on which I appear (Redacao SporTV) recently reminded Fluminense fans that they not always been patient with Richarlison.
When he started so well with Watford I would always pop the question to the club’s fans, on the underground on the way to the game or in the stadium. Had they expected such a quick impact in the Premier League? The answer was always no, with one exception. One supporter said that he had imagined that the ‘kamikaze intensity’ of Richarlison might be suited to English football.
It is a fascinating observation, which perhaps sheds some light on the matter. When I look back at my notes from a 3-3 draw with Flamengo at the start of March, one of the things that stood out that afternoon was the amount of tracking back Richarlison was having to carry out. Indeed, Flamengo snatched a point with a late equaliser, which came from a free-kick on the edge of the area given away by Richarlison. “A punishment,” I wrote, “for making him work so hard.”
One of the big differences between contemporary football on both sides of the Atlantic is that, in South America and perhaps especially in Brazil, the defensive line plays very deep. The centre-backs operate almost on top of their own goalkeeper. This means that the space on the pitch is huge – and that Richarlison, wide left in a 4-2-3-1, was making a succession of lengthy bursts up and down the line.
At Watford things have been different. The team stays more compact, and he is able to use the vast majority of that ‘kamikaze intensity’ running forward. He is fresher to do more of what he is good at.
He has clearly benefited, not only from the presence of Gomes to help him in, and from the fact that coach Marco Silva can speak Portuguese with him, but also from how well he fits into his manager's game plan, based on rapid attacks down the flanks.
Recent results – and that late collapse against Swansea – might hint at an idea that Watford are starting to run out of steam. But there still seems to be plenty of gas left in the tank of Richarlison, the young Brazilian who has done so well since joining the Hornets from Fluminense.
His bright start is all the more remarkable given the fact that he has played through 2017 without a break. And he got the year under way in January with the punishing calendar of the South American Under-20 Championship.
There, Richarlison lined up in his customary position – wide on the left, looking to cut in, a mixture of wide striker and centre-forward. On the other wing was David Neres, now of Ajax. In the middle was Douglas Luz, since picked up and loaned out by Manchester City.
And yet Brazil could not even secure one of the continent’s four places in the World Under-20 Cup, where England overcame Venezuela in the final. All Brazil had to do in their last game was beat an already eliminated Colombia. But Richarlison, David Neres and company made little impression; the game finished goalless and Brazil were out.
Back he went to Fluminense of Rio, where he enjoyed some highs and lows. He scored some, made some – but came up short on some of the big occasions. I watched him many times in the stadium, and recall him making little impression on a pair of 2-0 home defeats (in league and cup) to South American champions Gremio, or in the two finals of the Rio State Championship. The presenter of the Brazilian TV show on which I appear (Redacao SporTV) recently reminded Fluminense fans that they not always been patient with Richarlison.
When he started so well with Watford I would always pop the question to the club’s fans, on the underground on the way to the game or in the stadium. Had they expected such a quick impact in the Premier League? The answer was always no, with one exception. One supporter said that he had imagined that the ‘kamikaze intensity’ of Richarlison might be suited to English football.
It is a fascinating observation, which perhaps sheds some light on the matter. When I look back at my notes from a 3-3 draw with Flamengo at the start of March, one of the things that stood out that afternoon was the amount of tracking back Richarlison was having to carry out. Indeed, Flamengo snatched a point with a late equaliser, which came from a free-kick on the edge of the area given away by Richarlison. “A punishment,” I wrote, “for making him work so hard.”
One of the big differences between contemporary football on both sides of the Atlantic is that, in South America and perhaps especially in Brazil, the defensive line plays very deep. The centre-backs operate almost on top of their own goalkeeper. This means that the space on the pitch is huge – and that Richarlison, wide left in a 4-2-3-1, was making a succession of lengthy bursts up and down the line.
At Watford things have been different. The team stays more compact, and he is able to use the vast majority of that ‘kamikaze intensity’ running forward. He is fresher to do more of what he is good at.
He has clearly benefited, not only from the presence of Gomes to help him in, and from the fact that coach Marco Silva can speak Portuguese with him, but also from how well he fits into his manager's game plan, based on rapid attacks down the flanks.
witchdoc187
Player Valuation: £60m
Started reading. Agreed with first two. Disagree with Pickwick, and lost interest at tosun who will be better than last season. Didn't bother with the rest
witchdoc187
Player Valuation: £60m
Oh yeah I did read it. Pretty sure we haven't flirted with relegation for a few seasons. At least recently
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