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Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

Martinez in or out?

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ijjysmith said:
Oh I mean we would get rid if he was rubbish, actually no i'm sure on that we would actually, but just the initial LOL's of everyone hating Martinez and a new manager being even worse would be quite something to behold.
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Hopefully we'd go for a big name manager for once. Pedigree over potential.

Though nothing is guaranteed in football. The media were fapping over Louis Van Gaal but he's barely improved upon Moyes' tenure.
 

If I'm right now the narrative is.,
Baines speaks out with a direct criticism of the manager.
The Echo reports this honestly.
The manager forces an apology out of Baines.
This proves there is a huge rift between players and manager.
A few things that worry me about this narrative are..
Journalists need you to read their stories. So is it just possible that they've been true to type and a relatively balanced statement from Leighton has become a shock horror headline designed to attract readers desperate for friction.
Baines is not known for rocking the boat or making snidey remarks about fellow professionals. So is it possible that he was embarrassed about how this had been presented in the press and wanted to straighten this out within the club.
It is normal club policy to penalise players for speaking out in a way that criticises the club. So is it possible that when confronted with this question Martinez needed to clarify that he felt Leighton hadn't said anything wrong but just allowed himself to be misinterpreted.
The Echo can play up to the mood of some fans all they like but they took what was said and created a tabloid headline and controversial tone to attract traffic. Does anyone actually think Baines will be happy they did that?
 

oldblue said:
If I'm right now the narrative is.,
Baines speaks out with a direct criticism of the manager.
The Echo reports this honestly.
The manager forces an apology out of Baines.
This proves there is a huge rift between players and manager.
A few things that worry me about this narrative are..
Journalists need you to read their stories. So is it just possible that they've been true to type and a relatively balanced statement from Leighton has become a shock horror headline designed to attract readers desperate for friction.
Baines is not known for rocking the boat or making snidey remarks about fellow professionals. So is it possible that he was embarrassed about how this had been presented in the press and wanted to straighten this out within the club.
It is normal club policy to penalise players for speaking out in a way that criticises the club. So is it possible that when confronted with this question Martinez needed to clarify that he felt Leighton hadn't said anything wrong but just allowed himself to be misinterpreted.
The Echo can play up to the mood of some fans all they like but they took what was said and created a tabloid headline and controversial tone to attract traffic. Does anyone actually think Baines will be happy they did that?
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all plausible except the bits in bold

The Echo published the comments in full and they don't support this misquotation or misinterpretation theory so you don't need to be worried anymore.
 
bluewally said:
But he said Baines had been misquoted and apologised. He obviously wasn't misquoted so someone is telling porkies
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He mainly said left open to interpretation.
'I don't feel the chemistry is quite there on the pitch at the moment'
Is not..
Baines says No Chemistry Between The Players
 
bluewally said:
all plausible except the bits in bold

The Echo published the comments in full and they don't support this misquotation or misinterpretation theory so you don't need to be worried anymore.
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That's a shock that they are defending themselves isn't it. And the statements I made are about how it was presented. Not whether they actually quote him at some point
 

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