Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

[roydo]

The Roberto Martinez Blame Game… there is only one winner., by Elliott Bretland

So, Leighton Baines is the latest player in the Roberto Martinez blame game.

Referees, injury time, bad luck. All to blame for Everton’s struggles this season, according to our manager.

Martinez, obviously, is doing a sterling job as Everton continue to build and grow and develop. The fact we are in the bottom half of the Premier League table is down to outside factors.

And no doubt the Wembley pitch will be too green should Everton fail to beat West Ham or Manchester United in the FA Cup semi-final on April 23.

If it wasn’t for pesky officials, terrible luck and the unfair comments of Baines, Everton would have won the title long ago.

With so many things going wrong at Goodison Park this season, one has to wonder whether it really is down to misfortune and being cheated out of games – are Everton really victims of the biggest footballing injustice the world has ever seen?

• With that in mind, just who, or what, is really to blame for Everton’s dismal run?
• Who or what is to blame for Everton sitting in the bottom half of the Premier League table?
• Who or what is to blame for Everton being closer to the relegation zone than the top four?
• Who or what is to blame for the fact that, in the last SIX months, Everton have just one Premier League win against sides not currently in the bottom three?
• Who or what is to blame for ruining the Goodison fortress?
• Who or what is to blame for the EIGHT home defeats this season?
• Who or what is to blame for the fact the current side is closing in on the worst home record in Everton history?
• Who or what is to blame for Everton holding one of the worst home records in Europe?
• Who or what is to blame for the 28 goals conceded on our own turf?
• Who or what was to blame for the FOUR goals we let in at home to Stoke?
• Who or what was to blame for the horrendous substitution and tactical switch which saw Everton throw away a two-goal lead to lose 3-2 at home to West Ham in the final 12 minutes?
• Who or what is to blame for the fact Everton season-ticket holders have paid over £100 per home win this season?
• Who or what is to blame for the enjoyment of matchday being ripped out of an entire fanbase?
• Who or what is to blame for making ‘going the game’ a chore?
• Who or what is to blame for the toxic atmosphere that befalls the majority of Everton home matches?
• Who or what is to blame for the fact Everton play with ‘fear and doubt’ at home?
• Who or what is to blame for some supporters leaving the majority of matches early this season?
• Who or what is to blame for ruining our weekends?
• Who or what is to blame for Everton’s constant capitulations this season?
• Who or what is to blame for the fact Everton have conceded 3+ goals a staggering 16 times in the 106 Premier League matches during Martinez’s tenure on Merseyside?
• Who or what is to blame for the fact Everton have dropped 45 points from winning positions under Martinez?
• Who or what is to blame for the fact a poor West Bromwich Albion side are above us?
• Who or what is to blame for Everton’s inabilility to defend set-pieces for the majority of the season?
• Who or what is to blame for Tim Howard starting every game in the first part of the campaign despite the fact he continued to cost the team points?
• Who or what is to blame for the club’s 25-goal striker wanting to leave in the summer because the club can’t offer him Champions League football?
• Who or what is to blame for the fact John Stones has gone from one of the best young centre backs in Europe to now looking like a liability in the Everton backline?
• Who or what is to blame for the fact Everton seemingly can’t function in the absence of a 35-year-old defensive midfielder?
• Who or what is to blame for the imbalance in the first-team and the disjointed performances of the last two seasons?
• Who or what is to blame for the fact Everton only have one way of playing and no Plan B?
• Who or what is to blame for the fact the side lacks chemistry, as pointed out by Baines?
• Who or what is to blame for the low morale engulfing the club at present?
• Who or what is to blame for the fact Everton have become this season’s laughing stock?
• Who or what is to blame for Martinez’s inability to learn from his mistakes?
• Who or what is to blame for Martinez’s refusal to take responsibility for his team’s failings?
• Who or what is to blame for all of the doom and gloom despite the fact we are entering a new era thanks to Farhad Moshiri’s investment?
• Who or what is to blame for the fact the majority of Evertonians are desperate to see a change of manager?
• Who or what is to blame for Everton’s underachievement during the last two seasons?

It’s the Roberto Martinez blame game everybody… and there is only one winner.

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The Tories?

 

[ianefc]

 

[anjelikaferrett]

Up until a few weeks ago I was still a Martinez supporter (fan might be a word too far) I was thinking, it will all click very soon, we'll absolutely batter somebody and that will be it, onward and upward. Then I went to the Arsenal match. and it was awful. He has no idea what to do and appears to be tactically clueless, there is no Plan B, sometimes there does not seem to be a Plan A. We are turning into Wigan under his stewardship and although winning the FA Cup will be awesome he has to go. It should not save him. I genuinely fear for us next season if he remains in charge.

With hindsight the signs of a man out of his depth (or in denial) are plain to see. Blame the referees (I can live with that- we have had some shocking decisions go against us); blame the fans (no. Never ever ever!!); blame the players (some may have under-performed but who decides tactics?); blame the press (for what?) Blame.....anybody except him. For me his reaction to Leighton Baines comments have been the final straw. Why should he apologise for expressing an honest, truthful opinion and assessment of what he thinks has gone wrong. I'm fully in the Martinez out camp now.

 

[ianefc]

 

[PhilM]

No. And I certainly don't allow my feelings about Martinez to effect how I analyse any given situation

Nor do I. I have no personal animosity towards Martinez and always hoped he'd turned it around. Unfortunately, I now see that as highly unlikely.

A flawed manager yes, but I've never believed that he's intentionally or maliciously been the cause four our club's sustained poor run of form.

However, I personally perceived the interview this morning was to be a swipe at Baines because he is unhappy with his earlier talk to the press.

Why else was it not his usual superlative laden or positively fuelled press conference? Maybe because he's under pressure from many angles...

...and that pressure manifested itself in the press conference. I feel no ill will towards Roberton, but yes I do think his time is up.

That's not a biased opinion... it's not an irrational decision... It's built up over patiently watching Everton begin to crumble for a lengthy period.

That's my opinion and you have yours. All I would say is don't be so quick to discredit others when there's a growing number who feel the same.

 

[Toffeelover]

With the latest bit of poor management (Baines) reinforces in my book the need for him to leave.

 

[Woolly Blue]

Unless its injuries or suspension then I think you will find the original post has more credit than your reply mate

That's true at least 95% of the time, though, to be honest, I forget what the conversation was about !

 

[AndyC]

Never want to see a team dump a game but if they did it on sat to show support to Baines.....then who am I to argue.

It seems Bobby likes to hold a grudge for a long time well good luck walking past the away fans.

Sorry mate, that would absolutely out of order.
If the players want to support Baines then there are other ways.
If they threw the game to spite the manager, then they would be, to my mind, in breach of contract.
Throwing a game would be a totally wrong response.

 

[oldblue]

That's my opinion and you have yours. All I would say it, don't be so quick to discredit others when there's a swaying number of people who feel the same.

Not sure what this means but how many people feel a certain way doesn't mean someone who is arguing against it is discrediting anyone.
I don't care what peoples opinion on him as a person are. But I do think that some peoples opinions on him as a manager could have clouded how they saw that press conference. Can you honestly think of a way he could have responded to their question on Baines that would have gone down well.
And you're right it's a fair question to ask if I'm judging the press.
But if I had to choose between the manager and the press over who cared more about Baines and the future of this club then I know who I'd side with.

 

[chopper6]

It makes me wonder how much of the fans unrest towards Martinez the senior figures within the club know about?

You'd think if they were aware how toxic the feeling has got towards him, and that more importantly we still feel that way despite a fa cup semi, it must be bad.

Surely that makes his position unobtainable?

 

[Jimmy1]

You'd think with all this heat on him he'd just tone the crap he talks down but he just keeps churning it out, and in fact he's getting worse. He's just been on SSN and I instantly shouted '[Poor language removed] off out of my club'. I have no interest is listening to him anyone. I avoid it as best I can.

 

[technojoe]

NEEEEEEEEEERRD!

You'd make a correction if someone said stevie baines

 

[IRO1977]

I fully expect martinez to completely lose his grip on reality and start walking to dundee in his bare feet any day now

 

[matty1878]

Our home nxt week il stand up and shout Martinez out on me own not assed.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

I fully expect martinez to completely lose his grip on reality and start walking to dundee in his bare feet any day now

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