Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

Martinez in or out?

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Khalekan said:
This is why it is important he is fired before even the semi final.

The closer we get to winning the cup, or actually winning it, the more difficult it becomes to fire him.

And if he is fired anyway, which I suspect he will be, the new man will taking over what is perceived to be a successful club and the bar of expectation is raised for him.....see wee Davey taking over at the league champions.

We need tha fanbase united right now.

But at the moment there is a division.

On the one hand there are those of us who would give a kidney to see Jags hoist the trophy aloft in May no matter what.

Then there are other chaps who opine, with some justification it must be said, the a Cup win could we'll be a Pyrrhic victory in that it buys Bobby more time to bring us down the table next season with his failed philosophyball.

Bin Bobby now......and every last one of us is four square with a caretaker manager (big Joe ?) as we focus on winning the Cup.

Then move heaven and earth to fetch in a top coach in the summer.
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Agree with every single word.
 

paulbefc said:
I've detailed quite clearly above why you pretty much ARE team Cult.

Join us for the duration of the cup run. Roberto can give you what you need.

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Never.
 
Prevenger17 said:
lol I've already laid out my position on numerous occasions. I'm 100% pro Martinez between now and the end of the season, 100% flexible on him as soon as it's over and 4,000,000% going to vault the hell out of you and Ian as soon as we win the FA Cup.

Really though, I was deeply unhappy with the way we lost yesterday, but Martinez has my full support until the end of the season no matter what. I don't see the point in changing now and he has absolutely earned the right to see out what could end up being a great season for us. And I mean that.

I'm not stupid, the home form is the reason he's under pressure, and I can certainly understand frustrations. You support a team that plays pretty much every week in a season: The more you win, the happier you are, vice versa the more you lose. Those feelings are magnified a thousand times over if you've bought a season ticket and aren't getting a decent emotional return on your investment every two weeks or so.

But I only care about Everton winning a trophy. I've wanted it ever since I started supporting Everton and I've never witnessed it as an Everton fan. If we're going to bang on about Martinez' tenure with Wigan, that's fine, because he won something with them and has given a very good account of himself in knockout tournaments with us. I really think he can do it, and that would honestly be one the happiest moments of my adult life. League wins are fleeting and transient, I would remember us winning an FA Cup forever.

Criticizing him is fine, but to see people call him names, question his integrity and start finding something wrong with everything he does or says (someone criticised the way he stood on the sidelines the other day FFS) seems utterly crazy to me generally, and even moreso when we are on the cusp of opening our trophy cabinet for the first time in 21 years.
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Of course I want him to win the cup now that the opportunity is there. I just don't think long term he is the right man for us with or without trophy win. Of course there's no point considering a managerial change until the end of the season.
 
Prevenger17 said:
But I only care about Everton winning a trophy. I've wanted it ever since I started supporting Everton and I've never witnessed it as an Everton fan. If we're going to bang on about Martinez' tenure with Wigan, that's fine, because he won something with them and has given a very good account of himself in knockout tournaments with us.
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Isn't he the first Everton manager ever to go out of both cups at the first hurdle (last season)?

It's not that stellar a record Prev, not going to lie.
 

Khalekan said:
This is why it is important he is fired before even the semi final.

The closer we get to winning the cup, or actually winning it, the more difficult it becomes to fire him.

And if he is fired anyway, which I suspect he will be, the new man will taking over what is perceived to be a successful club and the bar of expectation is raised for him.....see wee Davey taking over at the league champions.

We need tha fanbase united right now.

But at the moment there is a division.

On the one hand there are those of us who would give a kidney to see Jags hoist the trophy aloft in May no matter what.

Then there are other chaps who opine, with some justification it must be said, the a Cup win could we'll be a Pyrrhic victory in that it buys Bobby more time to bring us down the table next season with his failed philosophyball.

Bin Bobby now......and every last one of us is four square with a caretaker manager (big Joe ?) as we focus on winning the Cup.

Then move heaven and earth to fetch in a top coach in the summer.
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WOW. The new @Khalekan and I bloody love it. The Plot is strong in you.
 
Khalekan said:
This is why it is important he is fired before even the semi final.

The closer we get to winning the cup, or actually winning it, the more difficult it becomes to fire him.

And if he is fired anyway, which I suspect he will be, the new man will taking over what is perceived to be a successful club and the bar of expectation is raised for him.....see wee Davey taking over at the league champions.

We need tha fanbase united right now.

But at the moment there is a division.

On the one hand there are those of us who would give a kidney to see Jags hoist the trophy aloft in May no matter what.

Then there are other chaps who opine, with some justification it must be said, the a Cup win could we'll be a Pyrrhic victory in that it buys Bobby more time to bring us down the table next season with his failed philosophyball.

Bin Bobby now......and every last one of us is four square with a caretaker manager (big Joe ?) as we focus on winning the Cup.

Then move heaven and earth to fetch in a top coach in the summer.
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Everything about this post tickles BOSSNESS. ;)
 

Saint Domingo said:
Of course I want him to win the cup now that the opportunity is there. I just don't think long term he is the right man for us with or without trophy win. Of course there's no point considering a managerial change until the end of the season.
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I can't honestly see us winning the semi, never mind the cup itself. In all probability we will be playing West Ham, whose confidence and form is sky high compared to ours.

The standard of football in our cup games isn't any better than in the league games recently.

I would be quite happy to see Bobby go now.
 

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