Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)
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hktoffee
Birds of a feather flock together
Shocking that is.
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
nil satis nisi optimum
Still doing a U-Turn on Kenwright now that he supports your man Roberto Dave?
Or just selectively choosing what you like about Kenwright now
ianefc
Player Valuation: £70m
And @Prevenger17 is Himmler very much already laying down the foundations of negotiation.lol lol lol
I love you, Dave.
It is like Hitler sat in the bunker in Berlin, sending messages to General Von Paulus in Stalingrad, telling him to fight to the last man.
Don't ever change, pal.....
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
Let me guess - your best mate Bill Kenwright?
ianefc
Player Valuation: £70m
Did they used to wear suits at Elland Rd and Villa park?
hktoffee
Birds of a feather flock together
Say if he cannot win the cup so you think 21 wins in 67 in PL is ok and as a kind of progress?
Of course as a fan I want the club to win trophies but the league got to be the priority right?
Wigan, as a town, had absolutely no interest in a game played with a round ball. Their wages and funding were cut drastically but he left them with some parting gift. I can see, even now, that if we win the FA Cup, the Plotters will put it down to good luck. Amazing to think that will be the case but conceding a two miles offside goal in a magical extra minute would be just bad management. The hatred of Martinez is personal for some now, not based on logic.
The war is over and sadly Everton lost.
We have a manager that gets out foxed by Tony Pulis, a Manager that doesnt know how to hold a lead, motivate the players and fails at every aspect of managing a Premiership team.
Hes an utter fraud, its quite clear the players have stopped playing for him, yesterdays "performance" was a watershed, no fight and no desire, I can take defeat, when its hard fought, but yesterday we rolled over and let Arsenal tickle our belly, at home, at home we were losing 2-0 and instead of going for it the 2nd half he shut up shop for 45minutes.
We have the worst home record in Europe, its almost like the players are doing everything they can to highlight how much they want him gone.
He very well might fluke the cup this season, that will be down to the players actually giving 1 and wanting to win something for themselves, in the league they have given up, the stale tactics, the constant defeats and the subs that would make Ian Halloway wince, we took a major gamble on a failure of a man and hes done what he does, fails.
So I no longer need to wait until the end of the season, ive seen enough, he MUST be sacked, the very second we exit the FA Cup, if thats in May with Jags holding up the trophy then so be it.
This is clearly me resigning from The Cult, I wont be returning, im 100% Plotter from now on.
We have the best striker in Europe and we sit in 12th place cos the manager has the tactical nous of a cabbage, a cabbage thats been left in the sun for 3 days.
SACK, SACK, SACK
We have a manager that gets out foxed by Tony Pulis, a Manager that doesnt know how to hold a lead, motivate the players and fails at every aspect of managing a Premiership team.
Hes an utter fraud, its quite clear the players have stopped playing for him, yesterdays "performance" was a watershed, no fight and no desire, I can take defeat, when its hard fought, but yesterday we rolled over and let Arsenal tickle our belly, at home, at home we were losing 2-0 and instead of going for it the 2nd half he shut up shop for 45minutes.
We have the worst home record in Europe, its almost like the players are doing everything they can to highlight how much they want him gone.
He very well might fluke the cup this season, that will be down to the players actually giving 1 and wanting to win something for themselves, in the league they have given up, the stale tactics, the constant defeats and the subs that would make Ian Halloway wince, we took a major gamble on a failure of a man and hes done what he does, fails.
So I no longer need to wait until the end of the season, ive seen enough, he MUST be sacked, the very second we exit the FA Cup, if thats in May with Jags holding up the trophy then so be it.
This is clearly me resigning from The Cult, I wont be returning, im 100% Plotter from now on.
We have the best striker in Europe and we sit in 12th place cos the manager has the tactical nous of a cabbage, a cabbage thats been left in the sun for 3 days.
SACK, SACK, SACK
mmmmsnouts
Player Valuation: £40m
Level on points with Bournemouth with 5 times the talent. NSNO
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
@davek
Kenwright: Smith is still our man
Bill Kenwright has given his full backing to Walter Smith's troubled Goodison Park reign and assured the Everton manager that his job is safe. Mounting speculation that Smith would either quit in despair or be fired after becoming embroiled in a prolonged struggle for Premiership survival was dismissed out of hand by Kenwright after the 2-2 home draw with Sunderland.
The Everton owner broke his silence over suggestions that he was contemplating a change, with Preston's David Moyes supposedly in line to take over, and said: 'I am meant to be announcing Walter's departure, if you believe all you hear, but nothing could be further from the truth. I want to make it clear that Walter is very much the man for the job here and will still be in charge next season. I know there are a few dissenting voices among our fans, but you have to acknowledge that our injury problems this season have been without parallel.' Kenwright added: 'Walter and I speak the same language. We both know the score on finance. If I had £150million, believe me, it would be in Everton's bank account. But I haven't and we have to operate in the real world. It is easy to knock the manager, but just look at the problems he has had this season. Throughout it all, Walter has stood there to be counted. He has been honest and faced his responsibilities and I have never had any doubts that he is the right man for us.' There could be a reprieve for Paul Gascoigne who looked certain to be on his way out, with 12 months left on his agreement, after allowing his fitness to suffer during a six-month injury absence. Kenwright said: 'The final decision will rest with Walter and will be influenced by fitness levels, but it is my hope that Paul will be with us next season.' Kevin Phillips twice struck fine equalisers to force Sunderland back into the game after Idan Tal and Michael Ball, with a penalty, had put Everton ahead.
In a match of nine bookings, Sunderland had Don Hutchison sent off after bringing down Dave Unsworth for a penalty which the defender saw well saved by Thomas Sorensen.
Kenwright: Smith is still our man
Bill Kenwright has given his full backing to Walter Smith's troubled Goodison Park reign and assured the Everton manager that his job is safe. Mounting speculation that Smith would either quit in despair or be fired after becoming embroiled in a prolonged struggle for Premiership survival was dismissed out of hand by Kenwright after the 2-2 home draw with Sunderland.
The Everton owner broke his silence over suggestions that he was contemplating a change, with Preston's David Moyes supposedly in line to take over, and said: 'I am meant to be announcing Walter's departure, if you believe all you hear, but nothing could be further from the truth. I want to make it clear that Walter is very much the man for the job here and will still be in charge next season. I know there are a few dissenting voices among our fans, but you have to acknowledge that our injury problems this season have been without parallel.' Kenwright added: 'Walter and I speak the same language. We both know the score on finance. If I had £150million, believe me, it would be in Everton's bank account. But I haven't and we have to operate in the real world. It is easy to knock the manager, but just look at the problems he has had this season. Throughout it all, Walter has stood there to be counted. He has been honest and faced his responsibilities and I have never had any doubts that he is the right man for us.' There could be a reprieve for Paul Gascoigne who looked certain to be on his way out, with 12 months left on his agreement, after allowing his fitness to suffer during a six-month injury absence. Kenwright said: 'The final decision will rest with Walter and will be influenced by fitness levels, but it is my hope that Paul will be with us next season.' Kevin Phillips twice struck fine equalisers to force Sunderland back into the game after Idan Tal and Michael Ball, with a penalty, had put Everton ahead.
In a match of nine bookings, Sunderland had Don Hutchison sent off after bringing down Dave Unsworth for a penalty which the defender saw well saved by Thomas Sorensen.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
lol lol lol
I love you, Dave.
It is like Hitler sat in the bunker in Berlin, sending messages to General Von Paulus in Stalingrad, telling him to fight to the last man.
Don't ever change, pal.....
I'm utterly amazed people think that a loss to Arsenal after reaching Wembley last week means a solitary thing.
There's some level of cluelessness out there if there's a belief Martinez isn't anything other than certain to start off next season as Everton manager. He's safe now, imo. But even those who doubt that will have to acknowledge it if we get to the cup final.
Honestly, heads need wobbling here.
Woolly Blue
Player Valuation: £80m
Sorry mate, I can't agree with that. I think the disruption caused by sacking him before the semi lessens our chances of progressing and ultimately winning the competition.
For me, he stays till the season's over, and then the position's reviewed. If we win the cup, but a better manager is identified who's available and willing to take the job on under whatever remit he's given, then there's no reason why we can't go our seperate ways.
Granted, he'd probably get a stay of execution, but we're in no position to do anything which lessens our chance of a trophy.
No. My position in that respect has always been the same since I began supporting Everton. I consider a trophy far more important than a league placing and always will. In my mind, an FA Cup victory would make for the most successful campaign Everton have had in 21 years, and I would be forever grateful to the man and players responsible for it.
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