I love the take on Martinez's career: 72 points = Moyes was responsible; FA Cup win = he killed a football club to do it. Have you ever thought your argument would benefit from giving the man some well earned credit? Just a thought.
As for Moyes' time here: who is arguing that Martinez should have an indefinite period set aside for him? I've argued he has a contract for 5 seasons and should be allowed to get on with it. No more than that. Back him and leave the man to get on with it. The only way that should be called time on early is if we were in imminent danger. As it is we're not and we're in a decent position to snatch a trophy. And who apart from a a few panickers thought we'd be relegated last season? It's an absurd claim.
Of course we stayed at the same level: he was an experienced manager with a squad that knew the ropes in the PL from previous campaigns and he sacrificed only Rodwell and Arteta of any note to make up the cost cutting. Why would there be a big drop off?
And, btw, this was at a time when competition from below was not what it is today as a result of all teams being massively bankrolled now.
I'm not arsed about 7 seasons. He hasn't been here at Everton 7 seasons. You may as well put Swansea's figures in too, it's about as relevant.
Of course they're not as consistent or as accomplished as the 80s Everton team. That wasn't the claim though was it? He's attempted to take us in a different direction to the muck served up previously masquerading as football and Everton have been complimented on their style hundreds of times this season for playing expansive football and scoring more goals from open play than any other club. Is your assessment of this manager that warped by bias that you cant eevn acknowledge what the vast majority of football fans would concede?
I don't give him any credit, you don't give him any blame mate, i however do give him credit for the first season, but i also am not so blind to not relaise that he did benefit from the previous manager, did he take it on a level ofc he did, but after the defensive rigidty he inheritted faded we can evaluate him more clearly - this is now a Martinez team in all its 'glory'
give him the neght of his contract unless we are in imminent danger of relegation - jesus mate this is a results business, so we should be the only club in football that doesn't expect it's manager to perform at a sufficient level and should just nod like a dog in the back seat no matter what, this is showing you up as somene with bad double standards - what you are advocating is exactly what you slated the board for over many years - for acceptance of mediocrity and just being happy with the statis quo
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Everton manager accepts supporters’ frustration is understandable after eight matches without a win and, having previously insisted the club’s ambitions should remain to qualify for Europe, concedes the team is immersed in a fight for survival.
“I’ve been long enough in this league to understand how difficult it is to get to 40 points. In the same way, I know what we are capable of doing. Last season showed our standard and that is what we are fighting for. We know what level we can reach.
Thats from january last year
Everton manager Roberto Martinez has accepted that the club are in a relegation battle. Martinez's side are six points above the relegation zone after winning one of their last 12 Premier League games. Everton have 28 points from 28 games, their lowest total at this stage of a season in the Premier League era. "Any team that hasn't got 40 points in the final third of the season is in a relegation fight,"
Martinez told the Sunday Telegraph. "The big advantage I have is that I've been through that every season." Martinez won successive relegation battles as manager with Wigan Athletic in 2010, 2011 and 2012 before they went down in 2013, days after winning the FA Cup. "Yes, yes, but I've been down with 36 points and it's very tough to get 36 points in this league," Martinez said. "It was very painful because it was on the back of winning the FA Cup. The FA Cup final got in the middle of achieving that and we paid the price."
thats from march the same year
So apparently Martinez was one of the panickers as he admitted twice that we where in a relation battle mate - and in March we mst certainly where
Moyes also sold Lescott mate, but you omitted that one ofc
Your not arsed about the 7 seasons then so dont want to include the time at Wigan, ok lets scrap that fa cup win from him then too mate - be ncie now remember your not able to refer to that or else your being naughty
As for the entertainers - yeah lots of neutral fans who see us once in a blue moon or highlights on match of the day now and again may think we are brilliant to watch - the fans who go the game though are fed up of the way we play, no tempo - no bite, but hey we get compliments from Michael Owen and some fat muppet journo for the mail so we must be boss, ofc ingore all the negative comments about the style we play and how it is tactically naive etc, because that doesn't suit what you want to here
