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Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

Martinez in or out?

  • In

  • Out

  • Getting splinters eating cheese on toast on the fence

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nsno-chris said:
And here's me thinking football was about winning. Damn, how many points do we get for pretty passing (even though it's not pretty 80% of the time)
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Apparently it's not. It's about attempting to be stylish whether that brings success or not. Winning is old hat. So are leagues - doesn't matter where you finish. Cups are where it's at nowadays. :hayee:
 
willo30 said:
Play to your strengths and it will give you your best chance of success.

Simple theories are usually the best. Can't knock them for it.
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I'm jealous. No question. It should be us, not a no mark team from a town that doesn't eat. sleep and breathe football. What a waste of a title.

Yes, they do the basics well. Yes they are competitive. Yes they deserve to be there. But for the love of all things holy - THAT is not good football. Never in a million years. I feel like stabbing my eyes out with a potato peeler when they're on the box.
 
billycopper said:
Well reasoned. Our problem is that we want to play like Barcelona and dominate the opposition at Goodison. But where Barca have goalscoring threats all over the pitch, World-class players at their peak and a finely-honed system we're still novices. Teams can come to our place, double up on Lukaku, congest the midfield and wait to pick us off.

Away from home we spring the counter attacks and it suits our players more. We played more conservatively against Chelsea and reaped the rewards. I think that we're afraid that if we invite the opposition on to us at Goodison rather than throwing the kitchen sink at them that the fans will criticise a perceived lack of adventure.

The league is still very tight. We could plausibly win at Old Trafford and draw level on points with Chelsea. We have two games in hand on seventh-placed Southampton. Win them both and we're only 3 points behind them and they still have to come to our place.

Leicester and Liverpool are the only sides above us in the league that we still have to play and they're both our favoured away fixtures.
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I reckon we'll beat ManU, draw at Watford and then lose to Soton.
 
If we had Ranieri where would we be -looking towards relegation and a possible FA cup Wigan style or sitting eight points clear whilst teams around you flounder. We can only keep dreaming
 
davek said:
I'm jealous. No question. It should be us, not a no mark team from a town that doesn't eat. sleep and breathe football. What a waste of a title.

Yes, they do the basics well. Yes they are competitive. Yes they deserve to be there. But for the love of all things holy - THAT is not good football. Never in a million years. I feel like stabbing my eyes out with a potato peeler when they're on the box.
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Careful Dave,I am sure you are mellowing. Just a wee bit.
 

davek said:
I'm jealous. No question. It should be us, not a no mark team from a town that doesn't eat. sleep and breathe football. What a waste of a title.

Yes, they do the basics well. Yes they are competitive. Yes they deserve to be there. But for the love of all things holy - THAT is not good football. Never in a million years. I feel like stabbing my eyes out with a potato peeler when they're on the box.
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But it's all they have. Let them have their moment. They'll drop like a stone next season when they get sussed out as they have nothing else.
My prediction is they will get relegated next season or at the very least be in a battle.
 
davek said:
I have massive regard for Ranieri now. He;s handled the resources he has masterfully. I hope for him they win it. But I cant ever take that style of football. It's basic. Yes it's got results. But it's ugly.

I dont think I'm alone in claiming that.
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They've played some lovely stuff this season Dave.

It's fast, exciting and never a dull moment.

That's how football should be played.

When we've been at our best this season, we've played in a similar way
 

davek said:
I have massive regard for Ranieri now. He;s handled the resources he has masterfully. I hope for him they win it. But I cant ever take that style of football. It's basic. Yes it's got results. But it's ugly.

I dont think I'm alone in claiming that.
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I agree it's not pretty but if you can't win a fight fair sometimes you have to win ugly. I hope they win it too, just to annoy all those glory hunting mancs, reds etc. lol
 
davek said:
...but you never thought he'd achieve that and hoped that Moyes was our only hope to get it if he stayed on....so it must have some 'stock' for you too?

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/...happy-if-moyes-left.54639/page-5#post-1829374
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Yes mate, I like finishing high up the league table. I also consider fourth to be better than fifth. I stand by what I said in that post, without getting into Moyes again I think had he carried on with the way the league is and the money available he would have put up a better challenge for fourth this season and last than Martinez. I do put stock in those things. You on the other hand think anything from 5th to 17th is pointless (apart from that one time when Roberto came fifth) and you think its just cups that matter (but strangely not in Martinez's first season when it was all about the 72 points, or in his second season when it was all about the Europa). You also think Europe is a waste of time (apart from when we were in it then it was the be all and end all and a good reason to throw the league away, until we got knocked out then it was a mickey mouse cup). You banged on all this season about 60 points, now that we've had the worst home campaign in our history suddenly points don't matter at all (apart from of course that 72 point season). And you have the front to call everyone else inconsistent.
 
willo30 said:
But it's all they have. Let them have their moment. They'll drop like a stone next season when they get sussed out as they have nothing else.
My prediction is they will get relegated next season or at the very least be in a battle.
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They'll be a Blackburn type of champion. One season in the limelight.

I cant believe that lot are likely champions. It's just not right. Us or Spurs from the pack? Yes. Leicester?! It's a pisstake and an abomination.
 

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