Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

[griffla]

You ignore the rest of my point. What manager in the premier league took their team down 7 spots and kept their job with no negative differences in finances in the history of the league?

That's a complicated set of stipulations. So Leicester win the league then finish 7th next season - sack Ranieri?

 

[Zatara]

I think if Coleman and baines weren't instructed by the manager to bomb forward as much you might find they are more defensively sound.

Tactics are the issue imo

Tbh im not sure....

I have a feeling that Martinez has seen Coleman and Deulofeu and then now is afriad to pay them together so went for lennon (of course hes been amazing).

On the other side, Oviedo in for Baines....Galloway even looked better defensively too.

Neither player is reliable defensively and you cant risk playing a Deulofeu without the threaf of coleman being out of position.....Deulofeu on the left in front of bained would also be suicide.

I really think he needs to have attacking wingers but termpered with better defensivelt minded full backs.

 

[bluewally]

Tbh im not sure....

I have a feeling that Martinez has seen Coleman and Deulofeu and then now is afriad to pay them together so went for lennon (of course hes been amazing).

On the other side, Oviedo in for Baines....Galloway even looked better defensively too.

Neither player is reliable defensively and you cant risk playing a Deulofeu without the threaf of coleman being out of position.....Deulofeu on the left in front of bained would also be suicide.

I really think he needs to have attacking wingers but termpered with better defensivelt minded full backs.

But his tactic is to have attacking full backs. Coleman is out of position because his manager instructs him to attack. Any full backs he brings in will be expected to attack unless his tactics change.

You can't blame the personnel for following the managers tactics.

 

[MikeH72]

YEP...and I cannot, simply CANNOT get my head 'round how people are NOT getting this. Can it be more apparent?

Sheeeesh...

There's sorts of things you'd only really notice if you were at the game and could see the whole pitch. Like when the opposition break from our attack and we're all over the place, Barkley filling in at centre back, Funes Mori up on the right wing, Cleverley and McCarthy up front. The organisation is absolutely shocking, everyone then starts to panic and make mistakes, fluff clearances, give the ball away. It all stems from being so disorganised, which is absolutely a coaching issue. No one knows their roles or responsibilities when we come to defend

 

[orly]

Think the Valencia role now gives both the Club and Martinez and ideal opportunity to part ways under happy terms.

Hopefully he will have the good grace and decency, in light of his failures, to forgo his contract severance

 

[Saint Domingo]

Think the Valencia role now gives both the Club and Martinez and ideal opportunity to part ways under happy terms.

Hopefully he will have the good grace and decency, in light of his failures, to forgo his contract severance

No way Valencia will take Martinez unfortunately. He's nowhere near that level. They'll probably go for Pellegrini and we'll be stuck with coco.

 

[oldblue]

You don't want to see what I projected onto yer ma.

Doubt she'll have noticed. Or you can aim

 

[TheHumbleEgg]

There's sorts of things you'd only really notice if you were at the game and could see the whole pitch. Like when the opposition break from our attack and we're all over the place, Barkley filling in at centre back, Funes Mori up on the right wing, Cleverley and McCarthy up front. The organisation is absolutely shocking, everyone then starts to panic and make mistakes, fluff clearances, give the ball away. It all stems from being so disorganised, which is absolutely a coaching issue. No one knows their roles or responsibilities when we come to defend

Yep, all that...

...it's weird innit. I sometimes sit there, baffled, come home, throw this on and go 'Pfffff....' And I'd NEVER knock anyone unable to go the games...ever, whether by distance, circumstance, choice...whatever & no matter, we're all blues and all entitled to our opinion, here, there or otherwise. But sometimes I just genuinely, overwhelmingly feel that some of the stuff you pick up at the ground in compare to what's on a feed/TV/radio...well, you just don't get the whole dynamic do you? Even player reactions at times, LENNON a few weeks ago, can't even remember what game...utterly baffled for a period. I've seen ROM eyeing players, then eyeing the bench and getting NOTHING back...NIASSE when he's briefly appeared does a fine impersonation of GEORGE WEAH's cousin that had a jog & a big toey at SOUTHAMPTON....again, looking lost. It goes on...and the fitness levels???? Christ...

And I think this is what peeves me so much when you get that rancid & throwaway ilk of comments that relate to 'Oh, it's the fans...it's the atmosphere, it's toxic...It's the attitude...they're scared...' Frankly, if you think that you're a bad tit and you're just not seeing the wood for the trees. To repeat, they're pro & pampered footballers, well-versed in the art of conducting themselves...and if they can't take a bit of shiz from fans who've seen x-amount of home wins in a season and have paid good money to do so ('The Entertainers...' - sound, whatev's...) then they really need to have a big think. PLUS- and in abject honesty - I really, REALLY don't think the atmosphere has been anywhere near as toxic as some have made out on here, it's been a slow and patient build-up for me. It has the potential to be a bit spicey soon though eh 'cos now it's got legs....but that's up to our little Spanish Fly to prevent innits...

Can he?

*answers on a postcard to The MOSH, Goodison Park...

 

[nsno-chris]

Think the Valencia role now gives both the Club and Martinez and ideal opportunity to part ways under happy terms.

Hopefully he will have the good grace and decency, in light of his failures, to forgo his contract severance

C'mon Peter Lim, keep the crazy coming and take this clown off our hands

 

[MikeH72]

Think the Valencia role now gives both the Club and Martinez and ideal opportunity to part ways under happy terms.

Hopefully he will have the good grace and decency, in light of his failures, to forgo his contract severance

My god I didn't even think of this... Oh wow please *crosses everything possible*

 

[Saint Domingo]

Martinez 20/1 to leave his job. Even Wenger is at lower odds. Sake.

 

[davek]

Martinez 20/1 to leave his job. Even Wenger is at lower odds. Sake.

 

[orly]

'All the best Blerto, thanks for not much, quick handshake and pretend smile for the cameras, happy house hunting near Alicante for your new Director of Football role at Valencia. Also hasn't your hair grown back quickly now you've been able to put distance between yourself and Cleverley'

 

[meagher94]

Mourinho is on

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

Oh the irony!