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Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

Martinez in or out?

  • In

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  • Getting splinters eating cheese on toast on the fence

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nsno-chris said:
No we have lukakus goals because he's one of the best strikers in Europe, hence he knows when to make runs off the defenders, when to time headers.....its why he's the subject of bids from some of the world's biggest clubs.

Martinez had nothing to do with him being born with talent. Hence, rom has kept us away from danger
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Lukaku has improved despite Martinez, not because of him. if the club came anywhere near to matching his ambition, we'd be doing just fine.
 
nsno-chris said:
No we have lukakus goals because he's one of the best strikers in Europe, hence he knows when to make runs off the defenders, when to time headers.....its why he's the subject of bids from some of the world's biggest clubs.

Martinez had nothing to do with him being born with talent. Hence, rom has kept us away from danger
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Err, I'm pretty sure Roberto signed him for Everton.
 

The Penalty Box Dancer said:
Does anybody think we need to rebuild next season? Our player retention has been great but should we move on players like kone, Pienaar, osman, McGeady? Maybe get some money for James McCarthy while we still can? I just think it's time to go back to the drawing board
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The thing is, we can talk about moving on the outer squad players, but what difference does that really make? Losing today, we only brought on two subs. We started with the usual band of familiar faces. In fact so familiar, only Cleverley and Lennon started who were not present in the first season of Martinez. On comes Mirallas and then, with five minutes to go, the very dubious talents of Naisse. It would have been nice to show some real appetite for it rather than that usual "roughly 60 mins" first sub and the "barely enough time for an impact" second sub.

If you think about two decent displays this season, Chelsea home and City home, they've involved early or half time subs - forced or otherwise. But now we seem to just sort of drift a bit as the game goes on.

First season under Martinez United would have scored and virtually straight away we'd have seen a positive sub or tactical move. Didn't he bring Baines off and Del on in a Derby at half time?

I do absolutely agree with the need to move McCarthy on, or even to keep him deep and try and get him to take over from Barry long term. A really top class player in there would have this team really singing as a passing unit. You watch Mata today dropping deep and you thought - if only Barkley and McCarthy could show your level of application.
 

orly said:
The thing is, we can talk about moving on the outer squad players, but what difference does that really make? Losing today, we only brought on two subs. We started with the usual band of familiar faces. In fact so familiar, only Cleverley and Lennon started who were not present in the first season of Martinez. On comes Mirallas and then, with five minutes to go, the very dubious talents of Naisse. It would have been nice to show some real appetite for it rather than that usual "roughly 60 mins" first sub and the "barely enough time for an impact" second sub.

If you think about two decent displays this season, Chelsea home and City home, they've involved early or half time subs - forced or otherwise. But now we seem to just sort of drift a bit as the game goes on.

First season under Martinez United would have scored and virtually straight away we'd have seen a positive sub or tactical move. Didn't he bring Baines off and Del on in a Derby at half time?

I do absolutely agree with the need to move McCarthy on, or even to keep him deep and try and get him to take over from Barry long term. A really top class player in there would have this team really singing as a passing unit. You watch Mata today dropping deep and you thought - if only Barkley and McCarthy could show your level of application.
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Those two decent displays were cup games which tells me the players are losing interest in the manag
 
blue61 said:
Lukaku has improved despite Martinez, not because of him. if the club came anywhere near to matching his ambition, we'd be doing just fine.
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Exactly, a natural progression with age. You can see the difference from the start of the season how much is awareness has improved. But in steading of having this beast and pushing for CL, he's keeping our head above water
 

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