Roberto Martinez discussion

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Other teams have closed the gap/overtaken us now, whether that's down to the manager or not is open for debate.

Every team hypes their players up, but the way McCarthy is talked about on here (and opposition forums oddly enough) is beyond ridiculous. Decent runner in midfield but so limited on the ball.

No qualms about him playing like, he definitely offers that energy to the team every side needs but we look so limited with him and Barry together.

100% the managers fault, he has totally refused to get players in that can win football matches, he can't motivate the team to go out and try and win the game from the start only when we are getting beat do we look like we can be arssed, we are well and truely a bang average team nothing more
 
Hes not going to go anytime soon altough I wish he would.

A manager what cannot coach basic organisation and defending is not a manager I want.

Agree, it's not just defensively, I honestly can't think of a time we scored a well worked goal, it's just counter attacking goals or a ball that gets through from the wing or a scrappy goal, never in a million years will you even see a clever set piece, he is extremely limited as a manager, i honestly can't see us getting top 8
 
Agree, it's not just defensively, I honestly can't think of a time we scored a well worked goal, it's just counter attacking goals or a ball that gets through from the wing or a scrappy goal, never in a million years will you even see a clever set piece, he is extremely limited as a manager, i honestly can't see us getting top 8

Isn't a counter attacking goal a well worked goal. Our goals against Southampton were picture perfect. As was our trio against west brom. Our third against Chelsea was brilliant too. Stones,Lennon, Barkley, Naismith goal
 

We have taken 1 point from the Liverpool Man United and Arsenal games.For all the swooning and gushing over Martinez that's a very Moyes like record.Im reallly not sure about this Martinez fella i get a very dodgy salesman vibe off him tbh.We give goals away under this snake oil merchant like a dodgy ATM machine dispensing free cash.

Was watching sky sports the other night Chelsea v Wigan from 2010....8-0 to Chelsea
 
At the end of last season it was wait until next season this was a one off
when the fixtures came out it was get the first 10 out of the way
Now it's The beginning of Dec
Then it will be wait until after the Window.
next around Valentines day it'll be ( hopefully ) we're still in the cup
pretty soon it'll be another season that coulda shoulda woulda
next will be...fill in you're excuse here

An absolute joke isn't it
 


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