Roberto Martinez discussion

[By god I'm blue]

For the record, I like him, but if we don't win today I will like him a little less.

 

[TheFinnFan]

Because he continually spouts absolute nonsense?

You just cant understand his witz

 

[Duncan Disordely]

I always forget who likes him and who doesn't.

It's a real headache when trying to judge people on here

Peoples views are becoming that extreme it's becoming increasingly difficult to tell which opinions are parody/wind-up ones and which ones are genuine.

 

[Chang Elephant]

If you really think that the tactical move against Norwich was part of a plan to permanently move Stones to full back and Gibson to centre half, your problems are more serious than was at first apparent.

What problems lad ?

 

[ijjysmith]

We only won 3 times too.

We also lost our last 2 home hames of last season against Spurs and Sunderland and finished 11th last season.

Been asleep for 12 months?

Really not arsed about last season now. It's gone. It was crap. Get over it.

When you saw our first 10 games where did you expect us to be? Especially following the crap season last time. Answer honestly.

 

[degsy]

I'm off to watch the match in a minute and no doubt what will be etc etc
I would hope that the performance will ease my fears
I will wait and see

But it strikes me that the fact that this portion of the thread has ran and ran, with nobody being proved right OR wrong, might suggest that the wheel is still in spin...and has been for a long time

Lets face it lids, he ain't going to change aka Improve

and what ever happens in the next 2+hrs
One Sunderland swallow will NOT make a summer.

 

[By god I'm blue]

Really not arsed about last season now. It's gone. It was crap. Get over it.

When you saw our first 10 games where did you expect us to be? Especially following the crap season last time. Answer honestly.

A manager is judged on results, somebody has already posted the awful form for the last 40 odd games.

I don't care who we have played recently, that is just an excuse. It's a tough league but we have a side that is on paper capable of competing with the top 8. Anything less than that is a failure and he should be judged on that.

I can take one bad season, I'm not stupid enough or naive enough as an Evertonian to not expect that once in a while.

What I am saying is that if we continue with the form we are showing and end up out of he European places again, he will be deemed not up to the task.

I want him to succeed, he needs to start showing he can.

 

[degsy]

Really not arsed about last season now. It's gone. It was crap. Get over it.

When you saw our first 10 games where did you expect us to be? Especially following the crap season last time. Answer honestly.

I thought you said forget last season...then base a conclusion on it.

 

[orly]

Everton team (to play Sunderland): Howard, Coleman, Oviedo, Stones, Funes Mori, McCarthy, Barry (c), Kone, Barkley, Deulofeu, Lukaku

At least three of those players are hopelessly out of form, still get picked.

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[ijjysmith]

A manager is judged on results, somebody has already posted the awful form for the last 40 odd games.

I don't care who we have played recently, that is just an excuse. It's a tough league but we have a side that is on paper capable of competing with the top 8. Anything less than that is a failure and he should be judged on that.

I can take one bad season, I'm not stupid enough or naive enough as an Evertonian to not expect that once in a while.

What I am saying is that if we continue with the form we are showing and end up out of he European places again, he will be deemed not up to the task.

I want him to succeed, he needs to start showing he can.

I don't disagree with any of that. Despite not actually answering the question.

I just reckon we've had a tough start when compared to others, Leicester for example.

These next few games will be where I make my mind up on him.

 

[ijjysmith]

I thought you said forget last season...then base a conclusion on it.

Was used as a point to his arguement on as he was using it.

Pretty simple mate.

 

[The Equaliser]

You're all as bad as eachother, you included mate. Just swerve the thread, it's not hard to not click on it, most of us are only here for the LOLs.

I've kept it civil. Please remember that before preaching to me.

 

[By god I'm blue]

I don't disagree with any of that. Despite not actually answering the question.

I just reckon we've had a tough start when compared to others, Leicester for example.

These next few games will be where I make my mind up on him.

The reason I didn't answer the question as I had not put in my mind a league placing I expected us to be.

We had just signed McCarthy and Mirallas on long term contracts, secured Geri and we should have been very positive going into the season.

Don't think it's gone as well as it could have, let's hope to kick start that today

 

[Steve Wigan]

What problems lad ?

Your problems in understanding simple English ?

 

[ijjysmith]

The reason I didn't answer the question as I had not put in my mind a league placing I expected us to be.

We had just signed McCarthy and Mirallas on long term contracts, secured Geri and we should have been very positive going into the season.

Don't think it's gone as well as it could have, let's hope to kick start that today

I guess it's two ways of looking at it but coming out with the same mate.

I reckon it could have gone a lot worse than it has!

But at the end of the day we both know it has to pick up from this point.