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No naming names but youve got liars masquarading as ITK listed down and named as well as racist homophobe WUMs.

If anyone was allowed to post without being hounded then the place would be an open forum, which may have a load of tosh writen but would allow good banter.

As it is now , you can see a pattern of people not posting alternative viewpoints as they are hounded.

mythbuster said:
Absolutely. I'm sure DD never meant this place to make us look like a bunch of kopite or geordie bells, but it's fast heading that way.
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kithnou said:
The Kones and Alvarezes of the world are for me panic, feel good purchases when a Manager goes to a new club. Not going to take you to the next level, but make you feel more secure in the new job...
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I have a feeling you'd be saying the same and calling Jimmy Mc a £13 million failure if he'd been unlucky and picked up a 12 month injury.

Guess Jimmy doesn't suit your argument though. You know, because he's stayed fit, for an ex-Wigan player.
 
Its just a way to get people to become forum supporters. Leaving a clique able to attack new posters or posters with alternative viewpoints thus negating any conversations as FS can write what they like be it abusive or unnecessarily negative towards fans of the same club.

Whats the point of starting a new thread with an alternative viewpoint just to get abused and neg repped -- then have posting monitored and approval required before posts go through.

It just pushes people to either not post or become forum supporters.

ilikecheese said:
Far too many Cat 3 and 4 folks around these days. -10 neg was absolutely necessary. Thank you @GrandOldTeam.
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Zatara said:
No naming names but youve got liars masquarading as ITK listed down and named as well as racist homophobe WUMs.

If anyone was allowed to post without being hounded then the place would be an open forum, which may have a load of tosh writen but would allow good banter.

As it is now , you can see a pattern of people not posting alternative viewpoints as they are hounded.
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Liars? LCAB told me Moyes was United manager a day before the press did. He told me he'd bid for Felli and Baines. He told us all about Bily, before you'd ever heard of him.....

Who are these racist, homophobes mate? Pretty serious accusations you're throwing around there. But hey, If you don't wanna name names.....
 

Where have I said hes not good in the transfer market?

I said hed signed 3 poor players + had not moced on deadwood.

I never said he was poor in the transfer market at all.

ilikecheese said:
Disagree...the statistics may show otherwise, but it's worked brilliantly for me over the years.

We'll just have to agree to disagree. Trying to say he's not good in the transfer market (which I believe you were suggesting in your original post) is simply not true. He's done some incredible business. Nobody gets it right with every transfer.

Disagree about Robles. Older players tend to be injury prone, and need rest. Robles will get games this season. He's young, and has something that can't be taught...he's a big unit. Learning from one of the best ain't gonna hurt either.
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mythbuster said:
I have a feeling you'd be saying the same and calling Jimmy Mc a £13 million failure if he'd been unlucky and picked up a 12 month injury.

Guess Jimmy doesn't suit your argument though. You know, because he's stayed fit, for an ex-Wigan player.
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Football is full of opinions my man. Why do yo think Managers go back to their former club all the time when they take on a new job? You don't feel it is a psychological thing to make them feel some emotional security?
McCarthy was a 13 million buy, with numerous clubs after him. Don't think Kone and Robles could be classified as similar standard buys.
You think those 2 will get us into the CL and and be in the first 11? Hope you are right.
Football is an opinion business. I respect yours...
 
Hes a bit different though as he had showed improvement every season before joining. Also was at an age to improve as a key player and clearly the first symbolic signing of Martinez everton. I would say lukaku was the second.

Kone and alcaraz would be in a different category. Robles possibly along the same lines as mccarthy in terms of potentially able to improvr but not a first choice.


mythbuster said:
I have a feeling you'd be saying the same and calling Jimmy Mc a £13 million failure if he'd been unlucky and picked up a 12 month injury.

Guess Jimmy doesn't suit your argument though. You know, because he's stayed fit, for an ex-Wigan player.
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you know lads, it is ok to be a top, young Manager and still make mistakes. Hell, even the best of them make mistakes. Doesn't mean we can't have an opinion in a friendly forum that may call him out on his mistakes. Not the end of the world. He will make more I am sure, but that doesn't diminish his talent and future prospects :)
 
kithnou said:
you know lads, it is ok to be a top, young Manager and still make mistakes. Hell, even the best of them make mistakes. Doesn't mean we can't have an opinion in a friendly forum that may call him out on his mistakes. Not the end of the world. He will make more I am sure, but that doesn't diminish his talent and future prospects :)
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Only pointing out his mistakes without pointing out his successes is the problem I have. As you say, everyone makes mistakes. It's absolutely unfair to the man to only point out what he's done wrong. It's WUMming 101.
 
PM'd you.

Also note that Fellaini was linked 6months before we signed him and Baines was an open secret as was Moyes.

Plenty of posters have called out signings which have been obscure and have been hounded out -- bluefox, sheedy and david moyes to name 3 recent ones.


mythbuster said:
Liars? LCAB told me Moyes was United manager a day before the press did. He told me he'd bid for Felli and Baines. He told us all about Bily, before you'd ever heard of him.....

Who are these racist, homophobes mate? Pretty serious accusations you're throwing around there. But hey, If you don't wanna name names.....
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