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Roberto Martinez discussion

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But West Ham only have two players under 25 that has seen regular matches - Lanzinni (22) and Jenkinson (23) whereas we're regularly started Ross, Rom, Gerrard, John and Brendan - having Howard and Barry with a combined age of 70 really distorts the numbers!

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We have 4 players well over 30 there.. 36,31,34 and 32. The other two clubs only have 1 player over 30 each. Realistically, apart from one or two players in those respective teams, most of their players are at their peak ages right now as footballers.
No way can you say we are at the same stage of development (or age average if you take out the donkey Kone and a finished Howard for Robles).


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Don't take that post wrong, I'm behind him, I just think it's food for thought that a good percentage(ok maybe not half) are out for his blood.

I would say more than half the fan base have concern's that he is taking us backwards, which with this squad is criminal. But i wouldn't say they all want him gone, more like they want him to sort it out, but there doesn't seem to be any sign of this. Who starts in goal at Man City next week will be a clear sign if we have the right man for the job or not.
Personaly i like him as a person but if he was sacked in the morning I wouldn't think it was a bad thing, as i really can't see us getting back to the top 6 with him in charge.
 

So how do you judge his tenure so far? everyone has differing ideals.

Just going to put this out there but the fact that nearly half the fanbase wants him gone surely must say something?

I'm actually buying in to his long term plan which is a big turnaround for me, fookin exciting times though

It's a very strange situation really where a decent amount of people want the man gone - and in fairness their reasons are valid - yet we're two games away from potentially embarking on our most exciting period in the last 20 years.

One thing is for certain, anybody who wants the man sacked right now, at this very moment in time, needs sectioning.
 

It's a very strange situation really where a decent amount of people want the man gone - and in fairness their reasons are valid - yet we're two games away from potentially embarking on our most exciting period in the last 20 years.

One thing is for certain, anybody who wants the man sacked right now, at this very moment in time, needs sectioning.
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I'll take it one step further. We are playing the best football seen at Everton for nearly 3 decades apart from some issues at back. Which team do we fear?
We are, hopefully(!), about to be taken over by owners with money to spend on quality additions to the squad.
Frustration aside, why on earth would you be contemplating getting rid of the Manager at this point as we sit here at the beginning of January?
Give him time. We will find out if he makes it or not.
 
But West Ham only have two players under 25 that has seen regular matches - Lanzinni (22) and Jenkinson (23) whereas we're regularly started Ross, Rom, Gerrard, John and Brendan - having Howard and Barry with a combined age of 70 really distorts the numbers!

That really did stick out like a sore thumb in that post. Poor choice of data for the point being made...almost proving the opposite.
 
I would say more than half the fan base have concern's that he is taking us backwards, which with this squad is criminal. But i wouldn't say they all want him gone, more like they want him to sort it out, but there doesn't seem to be any sign of this. Who starts in goal at Man City next week will be a clear sign if we have the right man for the job or not.
Personaly i like him as a person but if he was sacked in the morning I wouldn't think it was a bad thing, as i really can't see us getting back to the top 6 with him in charge.
But the main reason the squad is so good is down to Martinez, both his recruiting of players and allowing the youngsters playing time in which to develop.

Another manager may be able to organise them better defensively, but at what expense in other areas?

Playing football that I enjoy watching with players that I like and can see developing is personally as much a priority, if not more so, than position in the table although realise that isn't going to be everyone's choice.
 

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