Roberto Martinez Shenanigans: All Reaction Here

[D410]

This sites poll says 1300 people out of 1500 reckon Martinez isnt the manger for Everton Football Club, something Southall says too.

Sleep walking snap. FYI, John Woods was speaking Martinez name months ago as a potential candidate for Moyes.

 

[catcherintherye]

I suppose being a winner gave him the qualification to speak out about ambition while the rest of us sleep walk to the owners tune.

I am glad Southall has come out and said it as it is. The charlatan from Wigan is pulling the wool over our eyes. Fluking an FA Cup whilst finishing nowhere in the league will never be good enough for Evertonians. We aim to finish in the top 4, and be challenging to win the league. Winning an FA cup will never satisfy the really ambitious Evertonians aims, finishing in the top 4, and going on to win the league will.

Southall is a winner. He has some real trophies, he has played for an Everton side who are the best in the world. No wonder he can see the FA Cupd for what it is, a significantly inferior trophy to trying to win the league. Well done Big Nev, Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

 

[Royal Blue Jersey]

I'm surprised at the supporters not wanting Martinez, and rather not have him over 2 managers who no one knew last month. crazy.

Talking far too much sense mate

 

[CardinalSin]

Martinez has come in for pelters from just about every ex player and pundit known to man saying he just isn't good enough. Unsworth, sharp, Ratcliffe, Southall, Matt Holland, Cundy, all have said they don't get the hype with him and he's a poor choice.

Don't get me wrong I don't want him either, but didn't I see someone put the stats on here that Martinez had a better win percentage at Swansea than Rodgers, and although his win percentage at Wigan was poor, it was still better than Rodgers win percentage at Reading?

If those stats are genuine, I honestly can't remember Rodgers getting as much stick when he joined Liverpool.

 

[Eggs]

I am mate. I don't worry about Martinez managing the team so much as it wasn't Moyes' strong point for me. He was brilliant in the transfer market and this is where Martinez needs to be careful

....not too sure. My understanding is that the players consider Moyes to be a top coach worthy of respect on the training pitch. I remember Graveson and others since saying how good he is so I don't go along with him only being good in the transfer market.

 

[wiggum23]

....not too sure. My understanding is that the players consider Moyes to be a top coach worthy of respect on the training pitch. I remember Graveson and others since saying how good he is so I don't go along with him only being good in the transfer market.

Not saying he is only good in the market, just saying that was his main strength. I'm sure he is a very good coach, but IMO was an average match day manager.

 

[Jay_B]

Martinez is a young manager that is hungry to be successful at the top. He will represent this club well, learn EFCs values and tradition and speak with class and dignity about the club. He will be around for at least 5 seasons results permitting and he likes to have full control similarly to Moyes.

He has had experience in the Premier League and also will learn from mistakes he has made with Wigan. I don't believe the cup win has tainted and glossed a decision.

Any manager coming in will be a risk, the key element is finding one that fits and the 3-0 game at Goodison to me said welcome Roberto.

 

[Christiffa25]

Not saying he is only good in the market, just saying that was his main strength. I'm sure he is a very good coach, but IMO was an average match day manager.

Can't agree with that. Naturally as fans do judging a manager they often just look at flaws. His league finishes over a LONG period tell you everything you need to know about the job moyes did. However he did it! Moyes played a way to get results, that more often than not got those results over the course of a season. Of course you can always look at particular's where he got it wrong. You can clearly look at away games to the big 4 where it didn't work. But if your looking at teams we failed to beat who we should of done as a stick to beat him, then you have to look at prob 6 teams every season that we should never have beaten...but we did.

Moyes did a great job, under difficult circumstances when teams around him were getting richer and stronger year after year. I think he'll only be truly appreciated now he's gone and we test life without him whilst seeing him do well at utd, yes winning cups, playing more attacking with top quality players.

 

[CardinalSin]

Can't agree with that. Naturally as fans do judging a manager they often just look at flaws. His league finishes over a LONG period tell you everything you need to know about the job moyes did. However he did it! Moyes played a way to get results, that more often than not got those results over the course of a season. Of course you can always look at particular's where he got it wrong. You can clearly look at away games to the big 4 where it didn't work. But if your looking at teams we failed to beat who we should of done as a stick to beat him, then you have to look at prob 6 teams every season that we should never have beaten...but we did.

Moyes did a great job, under difficult circumstances when teams around him were getting richer and stronger year after year. I think he'll only be truly appreciated now he's gone and we test life without him whilst seeing him do well at utd, yes winning cups, playing more attacking with top quality players.

Great post, spot on.

 

[tim cahill]

Martinez has come in for pelters from just about every ex player and pundit known to man saying he just isn't good enough. Unsworth, sharp, Ratcliffe, Southall, Matt Holland, Cundy, all have said they don't get the hype with him and he's a poor choice.

Don't get me wrong I don't want him either, but didn't I see someone put the stats on here that Martinez had a better win percentage at Swansea than Rodgers, and although his win percentage at Wigan was poor, it was still better than Rodgers win percentage at Reading?

If those stats are genuine, I honestly can't remember Rodgers getting as much stick when he joined Liverpool.

Just because those people can't see the hype doesn't mean they're right. What if they're looking at things too simplistically? Judging him on his league finishes with Wigan? None of those guys are renowned for being great football minds. I've got no doubt that Martinez is more intelligent than any of them.

 

[CardinalSin]

Just because those people can't see the hype doesn't mean they're right. What if they're looking at things too simplistically? Judging him on his league finishes with Wigan? None of those guys are renowned for being great football minds. I've got no doubt that Martinez is more intelligent than any of them.

They're judging him on his record, which is ****e however you want to try and dress it up.

 

[MartSlinger]

Martinez has come in for pelters from just about every ex player and pundit known to man saying he just isn't good enough. Unsworth, sharp, Ratcliffe, Southall, Matt Holland, Cundy, all have said they don't get the hype with him and he's a poor choice.

Don't get me wrong I don't want him either, but didn't I see someone put the stats on here that Martinez had a better win percentage at Swansea than Rodgers, and although his win percentage at Wigan was poor, it was still better than Rodgers win percentage at Reading?

If those stats are genuine, I honestly can't remember Rodgers getting as much stick when he joined Liverpool.

Thing is though, most, if not all of them have said they want an internal appointment, which im almost sure that 99.9% of Evertonians do not want.

 

[wiggum23]

Thing is though, most, if not all of them have said they want an internal appointment, which im almost sure that 99.9% of Evertonians do not want.

Exactly. What other top 6 club would hire internally. Not sure what these pundits, even the legends are thinking

 

[tim cahill]

They're judging him on his record, which is ****e however you want to try and dress it up.

They should be judging him based on his potential to do well at everton.

 

[stinger]

Exactly. What other top 6 club would hire internally. Not sure what these pundits, even the legends are thinking

They probably hope that after internal hiring some of them would have a nice new jobs as well.