Roberto's records

[angrysoba]

I thought about this he other day, we have had a fourth place with 65 points I think, and a fifth with 66 as best results in the premier league in terms of place and points tally. Bobby has said in an interview that he has set a target with 70 points or more and he is adamant that champions league is on. Ambitious but with Arsenals form lately it's possible. Regardless I think this will be our best season in the Premier League ever, and this is only the first season under Martinez.

I don't think we've had 66 points before. Jay in the OP says 65 was the highest and it came under Moyes, when we came 5th in 2008 while we came 4th in 2005 with 61. Here is his record, which was not bad, of course.

 

[ROBERTOMARTINEZ]

Read that article and it's been put together in 5 minutes by an idiot who knows absolutely zero about anything.

"From his time at Everton, Swansea City and Wigan Athletic, Martinez has proven himself ready for a test at one of the division’s leading sides."
Actually he is already at one of the divisions leading sides, look at the leagues finishes for the past 7-8 years, look at the fact we've finished above the rs two years running, look at the fact that we've been the only team besides spurs recently to break into the top 4 outside the sky 4 (now sky 5)

"He has already proven himself capable of operating smartly on a limited budget and his ability to bring out the best in youth is evident in the progress of Barkley, Coleman and John Stones this season."
Coleman is 25, not exactly a youth player but in his prime, played very well under Moyes last year, just because this 'reporter' only heard of him when the papers started mentioning him to United doesn't mean he's a youth player just broken through lol

"Full-backs Leighton Baines and Seamus Coleman have flourished in a system which encourages them to attack at almost every opportunity. Ross Barkley has enjoyed a breakout season, having been afforded the creative licence to attack."
Baines form has actually been down on last year so writers wrong their, Oviedo actually adapted to the system better and only now does Baines seem to be starting to find last years form, Barkleys breakout season has nothing to do with being given creative license to attack, its come down to actually being played and not castigated by the manager for any mistake

"The most inspired acquisition however, has been Romelu Lukaku. With 11 league goals already to his name, Jose Mourinho’s decision to loan the Belgian out continues to baffle."
It only baffles people who haven't watched us besides on MOTD highlights, Lukaku is raw, immensely talented but raw, think nearly all of us can agree that Mourinho knew what he was doing loaning him out as he wanted a better technical level from his strikers. Also McCarthy has been a more important acquisition but this reporter hasn't seen us play obviously so can be excused for not actually having a clue

"Players of Barry’s experience and Deulofeu’s promise aren’t common in the loan market and Everton don’t possess the financial clout to buy such players outright."
A look around the loan markets every season show that actually, players of a very high level are constantly available, its just a lot of the time their either used badly by a manager, or simply not mentioned as it's not in the premiership, Courtois, De Bruyne, Bojan, Beckham at Milan, Sturridge at Bolton, Lukaku at Wets brom, Remy at Newcastle, Klinsman at totenham, Campbell at us, Keane to Celtic and Leeds, Arteta to us, Davids to Barca, Moorientes to Monaco, never mind the ton of young players loaned around Spain who massively improve some teams, i just listed the successful ones, a host of other top players have had loans that didn't work out, funnily enough a lot of them across the park Anelka and Sahin as two examples would they have worked with a manager who knew what he was doing?

"For Everton to make a substantial splash in the transfer market, one of their most valuable assets will have to be sold. The vultures are already circling around the likes of Baines and Barkley."
Vultures like this hack, the fact he mentions Baines when since Jan and the new contract i haven't seen one link with him moving, most media are linking Coleman so yet again highlights just how clueless this reporter is like

"Much of their success this season is attributable to their efforts in the loan market. Although he has not been missed at Manchester City, Gareth Barry has enjoyed a renaissance of sorts at Goodison Park, while Barcelona wonderkid Gerard Deulofeu has proven to be the crucial difference on several occasions this season"
Actually ity has more to do with the mentality change brought about by the manager, his belief in players, and his willingness to not lay down and instead go for a result, the use of wonderkid shows the guy gets his knowledge through FM obviously

What a ball bag that reporter is, hasn't got a jar of glue. He's like a kopite, will not compliment us at all and is trying to find 'negative' reasons for our success. He fails to mention that Gerard, Lukaku and Barkley have all been injured at points this season. And also, saying that we have to sell Barkley to make a 'splash' is a tad ridiculous when Martinez has clearly stated he isn't going nowhere. These idiotic reporters don't half get on my nerves, how they get paid for that garbage is beyond me.

 

[bluestevon]

What a ball bag that reporter is, hasn't got a jar of glue. He's like a kopite, will not compliment us at all and is trying to find 'negative' reasons for our success. He fails to mention that Gerard, Lukaku and Barkley have all been injured at points this season. And also, saying that we have to sell Barkley to make a 'splash' is a tad ridiculous when Martinez has clearly stated he isn't going nowhere. These idiotic reporters don't half get on my nerves, how they get paid for that garbage is beyond me.

Would be funny if it wasn't for the fact the guys actually earning a living writing this kind of utter tosh though

 

[ROBERTOMARTINEZ]

Would be funny if it wasn't for the fact the guys actually earning a living writing this kind of utter tosh though

Exactly, it's madness.

 

[Mr. F]

I don't think we've had 66 points before. Jay in the OP says 65 was the highest and it came under Moyes, when we came 5th in 2008 while we came 4th in 2005 with 61. Here is his record, which was not bad, of course.

You're right, as is Jay of course, I was leafing through seasons on a stats site and must have mixed up some numbers.

65 is our best points tally, but was gained in a season when we 'only' got 5th, Whilst the season we got 4th we only recorded 61 points.

There's every chance we will beat the 65 points record with a decent finish.

 

[RaleighBlue]

Don't really like the reporter, but can't argue with that article really

I think it's quite good actually. It gives a little nod to our history and the school of science. And while it says we're poor...well, we are. It doesn't demean the club though, like the first one posted in this thread.

 

[nigelcoyb]

Read that article and it's been put together in 5 minutes by an idiot who knows absolutely zero about anything.

"From his time at Everton, Swansea City and Wigan Athletic, Martinez has proven himself ready for a test at one of the division’s leading sides."
Actually he is already at one of the divisions leading sides, look at the leagues finishes for the past 7-8 years, look at the fact we've finished above the rs two years running, look at the fact that we've been the only team besides spurs recently to break into the top 4 outside the sky 4 (now sky 5)

"He has already proven himself capable of operating smartly on a limited budget and his ability to bring out the best in youth is evident in the progress of Barkley, Coleman and John Stones this season."
Coleman is 25, not exactly a youth player but in his prime, played very well under Moyes last year, just because this 'reporter' only heard of him when the papers started mentioning him to United doesn't mean he's a youth player just broken through lol

"Full-backs Leighton Baines and Seamus Coleman have flourished in a system which encourages them to attack at almost every opportunity. Ross Barkley has enjoyed a breakout season, having been afforded the creative licence to attack."
Baines form has actually been down on last year so writers wrong their, Oviedo actually adapted to the system better and only now does Baines seem to be starting to find last years form, Barkleys breakout season has nothing to do with being given creative license to attack, its come down to actually being played and not castigated by the manager for any mistake

"The most inspired acquisition however, has been Romelu Lukaku. With 11 league goals already to his name, Jose Mourinho’s decision to loan the Belgian out continues to baffle."
It only baffles people who haven't watched us besides on MOTD highlights, Lukaku is raw, immensely talented but raw, think nearly all of us can agree that Mourinho knew what he was doing loaning him out as he wanted a better technical level from his strikers. Also McCarthy has been a more important acquisition but this reporter hasn't seen us play obviously so can be excused for not actually having a clue

"Players of Barry’s experience and Deulofeu’s promise aren’t common in the loan market and Everton don’t possess the financial clout to buy such players outright."
A look around the loan markets every season show that actually, players of a very high level are constantly available, its just a lot of the time their either used badly by a manager, or simply not mentioned as it's not in the premiership, Courtois, De Bruyne, Bojan, Beckham at Milan, Sturridge at Bolton, Lukaku at Wets brom, Remy at Newcastle, Klinsman at totenham, Campbell at us, Keane to Celtic and Leeds, Arteta to us, Davids to Barca, Moorientes to Monaco, never mind the ton of young players loaned around Spain who massively improve some teams, i just listed the successful ones, a host of other top players have had loans that didn't work out, funnily enough a lot of them across the park Anelka and Sahin as two examples would they have worked with a manager who knew what he was doing?

"For Everton to make a substantial splash in the transfer market, one of their most valuable assets will have to be sold. The vultures are already circling around the likes of Baines and Barkley."
Vultures like this hack, the fact he mentions Baines when since Jan and the new contract i haven't seen one link with him moving, most media are linking Coleman so yet again highlights just how clueless this reporter is like

"Much of their success this season is attributable to their efforts in the loan market. Although he has not been missed at Manchester City, Gareth Barry has enjoyed a renaissance of sorts at Goodison Park, while Barcelona wonderkid Gerard Deulofeu has proven to be the crucial difference on several occasions this season"
Actually ity has more to do with the mentality change brought about by the manager, his belief in players, and his willingness to not lay down and instead go for a result, the use of wonderkid shows the guy gets his knowledge through FM obviously

Mate there's very little in your piece I want to disagree with but footy is all about perception and the author reflects the commonly held external view that present day EFC equals fodder (and in all honesty there is some truth to it).

Roberto needs the miracle of breaking the top 4, keep his best players and ignore the ensuing allure of Barca/Arsenal/Utd? etc for at least 2 maybe 3 seasons to disprove it.

Oooo errr!

 

[bluestevon]

Mate there's very little in your piece I want to disagree with but footy is all about perception and the author reflects the commonly held external view that present day EFC equals fodder (and in all honesty there is some truth to it).

Roberto needs the miracle of breaking the top 4, keep his best players and ignore the ensuing allure of Barca/Arsenal/Utd? etc for at least 2 maybe 3 seasons to disprove it.

Oooo errr!

Honestly think he's smart enough to realise before going somewhere like Barca you need a proven record of winning mate, and honestly i think thats the only place he would leave us for, unless dealing with Kenwright over a few years disillusions him to a large extent

 

[Goat]

Hes doing it all with Moyes players doh lads.

 

[glorydaze]

Hes doing it all with Moyes players doh lads.

Bit like Moyes is with Fergies?

 

[Goat]

Bit like Moyes is with Fergies?

We currently have a more talented squad than United, Fergie > Martinez > Moyes.

 

[Aidey9]

Hes doing it all with Moyes players doh lads.

Martinez believes in these players more and gives them the confidence to go out and express themselves so they can give that extra 10% thats making the difference this season.

And giving youth a chance as helped aswell, made the team/squad fresher

 

[Goat]

Martinez believes in these players more and gives them the confidence to go out and express themselves so they can give that extra 10% thats making the difference this season.

And giving youth a chance as helped aswell, made the team/squad fresher

Yes indeed, it was tongue in cheek.

The same way that SAF got the extra 10% from the United players that Moyes cant.

It was his biggest fault, he could build squads, but never really got the most out of them week in, week out.

 

[Eggs]

...stats can be viewed in a variety of ways, but difficult to get away from these. Very promising and a reflection of the progress being made.

 

[DevineEFC]

The best stat's this season can be found in the stands!!
So far average attendence this season has been - 37,278

compared to 2 years ago... 30,031