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Confirmed Signing Robin Olsen

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It's not just some journalist, it's Joyce. Over the last few years he has very rarely got anything wrong in regards to our transfer activity. He is often the first person to break big news.

And also Romero's wife sulking on twitter strongly suggest we went for Romero.

But either way I think you are right Olsen has been brought in the to achieve the same outcome that Romero would have. Which is to give Pickford a kick up the arse. I'm not confident it will work, but we now have a safer pair of hands if Pickford's form continues to be disastrous.

We hope mate.
 
Thats exactly what this feels like to me. Even if it's not Donnarumma Brands will be focussed on getting a first choice starter in that area. Its the glaring area now.

Plan A was clearly Pickford just sees out the season. However he keeps fluffing his lines. We seem to have got a reliable backup, who at least from his stats is better than Lossl/Virginnia (who may move on loan again).

The criticism of this could be, that goalkeeper should have been a bigger priority earlier in the summer.
Maybe despite what I thought the money was not there or at least allowed to be spent .
Maybe Donnarumma is the long term plan
 
I'll play devils advocate here a bit though, why would you want to bring in competition for Pickford at the same level? You either want better than him, or you want a more effective number 2. I don't think anyone an make the case that Olsen, at this point is a credible better goalkeeper but there is lots of evidence to state he will be a stronger number 2 than Lossl.

I'll be honest, I never really understood the Lossl signing. He was poor and ultimately dropped for the 20th placed team in the country. He was average in the championship too.
Maybe mate, but we shipped him off on loan in January with no other option either!

Yeah, like you, I'm pretty unsure on it. Romero would have been my choice but not on the deal United wanted. Not for a 33-year-old stop-gap who primarily is coming in as competition.

We'll see I suppose. The pressure is at least on in some regard for Pickford to improve. Think they've had enough of him and I think he knew the other day that he has nowhere to hide now.
Just replying to both to save clogging up the thread.

We had Stekelenburg last year, and Virginia had come back from loan, and we also had nothing at all to play for by January, so loaning out Lossl was the sensible thing to do really.

Personally I just don't really go in for the 'better competition' line. I don't think there have been many instances where clubs genuinely have 2 keepers fighting it out for the shirt, generally there is an established number 1 and someone who will come in and do a job if needed. I've said before, United are the only club I can think of in the last couple of years where you could argue their number 2 could be number 1, and it has coincided with the worst period of form in De Gea's career. Liverpool have the best keeper in the league and their back up is a clown. I just don't really see any merit in the argument to be honest.
 
From what I've read, it sounds like he was quite good at the start of his season with Roma, then began to make mistakes and never recovered. Sound familiar?
 

Just replying to both to save clogging up the thread.

We had Stekelenburg last year, and Virginia had come back from loan, and we also had nothing at all to play for by January, so loaning out Lossl was the sensible thing to do really.

Personally I just don't really go in for the 'better competition' line. I don't think there have been many instances where clubs genuinely have 2 keepers fighting it out for the shirt, generally there is an established number 1 and someone who will come in and do a job if needed. I've said before, United are the only club I can think of in the last couple of years where you could argue their number 2 could be number 1, and it has coincided with the worst period of form in De Gea's career. Liverpool have the best keeper in the league and their back up is a clown. I just don't really see any merit in the argument to be honest.

I do think it's fair to say from what I've seen of Olsen (WC 2018 and then a bit of his two seasons in Serie A), he's probably a safer pair of hands than Lossl if called upon.

Maybe we are just planning to bin Lossl though so that's why we got a GK in.
 
Someone somewhere wrote today that all clubs in the PL have iffy goalkeepers prone to the odd error or three, with the exception of Citeh and the RS. Probably Olsen is no different to the rest, but if he is given a start at Everton and performs well at the beginning it will be up to Pickford to get his place back. Good competition at last.
 
Some journalist is not proof. He doesn't even have a blue tick!

Laughing at blue tick.

A blue tick isn't a sign of reliability or authenticity, it merely means the account is actually the person.

That is Paul Joyce. That's proof as far as I'm concerned. This was followed up by Romero's wife.

Here's a blue tick for you;



Man Utd wanted a transfer for Romero, if we were interested it sounds like we wanted a loan (which makes sense as we will be getting our next full time keeper in the summer)

Hang on.

You've gone to insisting there's no proof we tried to sign any other 'keeper than Olsen yet you've decided now we wanted Romero but they wanted a permanent transfer? Where's your "proof" of this?! Proof, proof, proof huh?

Pickford doesn't need competition, he just needs to stop being crap. He is not being crap due to lack of competition.

I disagree.

Most footballers are pretty vocal that increased competition improves performance.

There is no way on earth that Lossl is on 50k a week!

Nobody knows for sure, but that's what was reported at the time;

Under a remarkably lucrative deal, Lössl will earn 100M Swedish Krona over the course of his 3-year contract at Everton, according to reports. That's a total of £8.2M over the course of the contract, or £52,880-a-week. Ekstra Bladet claimed Lössl was on £28,000 a week at Huddersfield Town, where he played two seasons in the Premier League.

Oh and;


"Jonas Lossl will pick up just short of £53,000 a week as Everton's back-up goalkeeper"

Though we won't really ever know for sure - he's on at least £27/30k a week.

For us to have got Romero (who isn't even that good) we would have needed to buy him, then come summer we would be stuck with another goalkeeper who we would need to shift on on a long deal and high wages.

Again, who is disputing this?
Lets backtrack.

I said;

Maybe.

Think it's telling Everton went for Romero and Gazzaniga, before this fella at the death though.

Let's see - I pretty confident Pickford remains number one. I'd be surprised if Olsen makes a single premier league appearance.

You replied;

There is no proof that we went for either of those players.

I do think we are looking to get by for this season in goal so that we can attack the role properly next summer.

I said he was third choice after Romero and Gazzaniga.
You replied saying there's no proof Everton tried to sign them - before then deciding to offer specific intricacies of the proposed deal for Romero as well as the logic for us not signing him.
 

The thing with Pickford is when he was at Sunderland he was making decent saves, he was also conceding a lot - but that is to be expected when you are relegation fodder. He also had a good kicking game. Those attributes helped make up for the fact he isn't one that commands the 6 yard box and doesn't come and claim crosses. There was a moment in the Palace or Brighton game where he was challenging for a high ball and luckily the other player pulled out as Pickford caught it around his neck height. If he can't pick up the flight and trajectory of a ball to take it at the maximum or at least close it to it, then as a goalie you have serious issues.

Now his kicking game has turned rubbish, he concedes around the same he saves and he makes 2/3 brain dead decisions per game. So any positives he had in the ledger are gone.

We are not being overrun by teams and no one is peppering our goal. We just need a competent keeper to do the basics. Roll it out to the defence if not being pressed, kick it long if we are. They don't have to be super savers if the defence are making the opposition score worldies. Claim catches in the air before a striker can get a head on it and we will look a lot better team. Pickford needs to have a great display in the derby otherwise I would have no problem putting Olsen in thereafter even if he cannot produce the saves/kicking that pickford can do WHEN he is on top of his game.
 
From what Roma fans are saying about this guy, I think he is just an upgrade on Lossel, so not expecting anyone to challenge Pickford until next season
 
Not convinced he's enough of an improvement on Lossl/Virginia but we'll see.

We made a mistake hoping that Utd/Spurs would do us a favour - the same mistake we made last season with Zouma/Chelsea.
 
Maybe. At some level though, you can see more thought could have been put into it. Fulham loaned Aerola. There were options.

I was saying Joe Hart earlier in the summer.

Wage similar to Lossl I'd imagine and some serious competition for Pickford.

Don't understand where the Donnarumma shouts are coming from?
 

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