Did anyone notice the Nivea Men's gift set in Lukaku's bag at the weekend? Please god it's for Juventus
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TonyT65
Player Valuation: £2.5m
I can't help thinking about the last time we had an out and out goal scorer in the team.
We won nothing with him and once he was sold the goals were spread round amongst the team and we won the title.
Sometimes your midfield just needs a target man so they can shine and it helps in the long run.
Sheedy and Steven basically doubled their goals once Lineker left.
And now that's my mind made up - Sell him!
We won nothing with him and once he was sold the goals were spread round amongst the team and we won the title.
Sometimes your midfield just needs a target man so they can shine and it helps in the long run.
Sheedy and Steven basically doubled their goals once Lineker left.
And now that's my mind made up - Sell him!
TheFinnFan
Finners
Ive been saying this since Raiola came into the picture...sell him and move on.
...that sounds sensible if you have Sheedy and Steven in your team, unfortunately we don't.
There was one brutal dismantling of this particular argument a while back in the thread. @Khalekan made it, I think. I do agree though, I think there's strikers out there who will improve our team as a whole.
Lazy.
Could be worse, they could be making posts wishing Abel Xavier a happy birthday. Oh wait...
TonyT65
Player Valuation: £2.5m
We'll we had them in 86 -
And I think Sheedy got 1 in
We'll we had them in 86 -
And Sheedy scored something like 5 in 30 odd games that season. Then trebled it the following season in less games.
But I get your point.
...how many league goals did we score in total for those seasons? I think that's a more accurate comparison.
I did indeed, Prev
Just to re-iterate....Sharp scored 19 goals, Heath 10, Trevor Steven 9, Kevin Sheedy 5 and Paul Bracewell scored 3, all in the league during the same season Lineker scored the 30 league goals.
Mountfield, Richardson, Reid and the two full backs weighed in with about another dozen between them.
The following season, when we won the league, Trevor was leading scorer with 14 goals, Sheeds scored 13 and Inchy scored 11.
Our three leading scorers in 1986/87 netted 38 goals between them.....which oddly enough is exactly the same total as the three leading scorers excluding Lineker scored the season before
And Sheedy's goals that season mostly came when he was used as a central midfielder, not from his more traditional wide role on the left.
This was because Peter Reid was injured for most of that season and Bracewell for its entirety......the excellent Paul Power filled in for Sheedy on the left and was a revelation.
Sharpie missed a good portion of the season as well and only scored five goals.......Wayne Clarke joined us late that season and the five goals he scored pushed us over the line
In the Lineker season we scored 87 goals in finishing second.
The following year we scored 76 in winning the title.....that is 11 less goals.
And in both seasons we had the exact same amount of points.......86.
There has been a fallacy taken root in Evertonia over several decades that somehow we lost the title in '86 because Gary Lineker scored "too many" goals and we would have been all right if the goals had been "shared around" more.
Nowt could be further from the truth.
(Nev getting injured at Lansdowne Road was the main reason we missed out in '86.... the RS doing a Devon Loch with the Title theirs for the taking sealed the deal in '87... but that is another story
)But the moral of the story is this.
Of course it is a bad thing for us to rely solely on Rom, or any other striker, to score all our goals.
Just as it would have been if Lineker was the only player scoring regularly in '85/'86.
But it is an absolute blessing to have a prolific striker banging them in if other lads are augmenting his goals by weighing in regularly themselves.
And this is our whole problem right now.....only one man is, or was as it happens, scoring regularly for us.
With more than 33% of the season is gone a 36 year old DM and a right full back are joint second in our scoring charts with two goals apiece
And that is why we have been in freefall since mid-September.
TonyT65
Player Valuation: £2.5m
84-85, 88 goals
85-86, 87 goals (with Lineker 30)
86-87, 77 goals
The point still remains - if we kept the out and out goal scorer we wouldn't have seen the best of the midfield players.
Maybe we could see Ross scoring 15 or so a season, with a target man like Sharpy ahead of him?
85-86, 87 goals (with Lineker 30)
86-87, 77 goals
The point still remains - if we kept the out and out goal scorer we wouldn't have seen the best of the midfield players.
Maybe we could see Ross scoring 15 or so a season, with a target man like Sharpy ahead of him?
Why would that even matter if we are scoring more goals over a season with the "out and out goal scorer" banging them in for fun?
If someone told us before a season started that we were going to score either 87 goals or 76 goals, I am willing to bet dollars to donuts not one single person would prefer we scored the latter figure.
Also, you did see the "best of the midfield players" in the Lineker season.....you just didn't see them score as often as we had three top class strikers banging in 59....yes 59....goals between them.
Links, Sharpie and Inchy put the finishing touches to the excellent work Stevens, Reid, Bracewell and Sheedy (bless the day we had those four boys in midfield) were doing behind them.
Those four midfielders were absolutely brilliant that season.
I wish they had have had "assist" stats in those days.....God knows how many Sheedy alone would have notched up
And Tricky Trevor scored nine goals as well as setting the strikers up
No matter what way you look at it, a team is better off with a 30 goal striker leading the line than it is without one.
The trick is getting other players to share the load......and we had that in abundance in 1985/86.
We palpably do not have it now
Pittsburgh Footy
Player Valuation: £35m
lollollollollol those who want rid of Lukaku in order to "get the best out of" and put the scoring load on Barks' shoulders.
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