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They can. ...Aubadenmanajang is goingDortmund could never drop that kind of wedge
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They can. ...Aubadenmanajang is goingDortmund could never drop that kind of wedge
Where's he going and when have they ever reinvested the full amount of a sale back into 1 playerThey can. ...Aubadenmanajang is going
*holds 'respect' cup up and dances*Here's what finishing 17th gets you ---------------> Laughed at
Here's what finishing 5th gets you -----------------> respect
I dont know, I'm easy on it. Some prefer to leave it off the table, others want it front and centre. I go with the flow.
Why would I call achieving Everton's best PL season and assembling for the first time in a long time a squad with depth of quality 'a failure'?Cast your mind back to season one and the reaction by 99.9% of Evertonians to RM 'reopening the School of Science'. Would you like to just blank and expunge it from your memory bank and conveniently forget it because you want to suggest he's been a 'clear failure'?
This is why I never take this critique of the manager's time here so far seriously: it's all short term BS. I recognise it for what it is: fickle.
conga round Wembley, sounds like a plan Ha Ha*holds 'respect' cup up and dances*
They can. ...Aubadenmanajang is going
Could we try to keep the player threads about the players, and not the manager please?
I know they are obviously linked, but take a moment before you post sometimes. Ta
I agree with that post, because it underlines in spades the exact point I've been making (and having to make) over and over: that Martinez is being judged by a bar set higher than all predecessors.Football is fickle mate, i watched this club sack Harvey and Kendall twice, whilst the chairman cried about sacking Smith and treated Moyes like he was bigger and more important than the club and the fans.
Martinez gave us hope, he seemed to get the club and re-awakened a lot of memories about what we should be aspiring too, ultmiately hsi first season he nearly got their but not quite and sicne then its been shown to be a false dawn, maybe he was unlucky in one thing - he reminded us of what we should be aiming for and now he has to be judged by those very standards he wanted us to start to have as a club
Nil satis nisi optimum - words he said a lot his first season - words he has failed in 3 years to be able to live up to
other people's opninions about wheteher he will leave or not, and whether Martinez is bad or not.
I agree with that post, because it underlines in spades the exact point I've been making (and having to make) over and over: that Martinez is being judged by a bar set higher than all predecessors.
It's not on. Have the past two seasons in the PL been disappointing? Yes. Has, overall, the manager's record here been the stuff that get Everton managers sacked? No, not at all. Three season - Pl best total and two SFs spots (and the chance to go further).
NO Everton manager would EVER have faced questioning in the past on that record. You and others want to judge him with a measuring stick never used before? Fine. I'll argue continue to consistently argue that the criteria only changes when any Everton manager is given the kind of wedge currently being talked of for future transfer windows.
That's only right and proper.
My heart would be broken if he went
Wouldn't blame him though, imagine scoring all those goals and looking back watching us roll over. Manager is too blame if he goes. If we were where we should be - top 4 - he'd be going nowhere...
Quite. Pack it in Dave.
That is for the Martinez thread.
Possibly. But not this Summer.IF Juve sell Pogba, they could.
Anything can happen in football.
I think Man United is his next destination.