also the money for placing is a big factor too!
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i hope so, i really do
The Cowboy
Player Valuation: £60m
Well that's arguably kinda the point of transfers in general. You generally don't sign players to make your squad worse.
The Cowboy
Player Valuation: £60m
And the attractiveness of the club for potential targets. No amount of money will impress a player if they see we finished a place above relegation.
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
agree with your main points there below. I think koeman is a bit peed off with how the summer window went and is looking for the quick fast way, which is to get loads of money to build the team in his mould, as opposed to improving on some of the current crop who realistically could be trained into top 6 players. He's here for the short term and that's how he wants to do it imo, whereas someone who was oppointed with the long term in mind ala an eddie howe, would have been more than happy to coach the current squad to be better.
But i'm alright with koeman's view if that's it, the way this squad gave up last season and didn't play for martinez was the most embarassed i've been as an evertonian, it was utterly disgusting, so hopefully most will be gone within the next 2 years.
We have a mid-table team, who should really be doing better, a few players like jags and barry have declined under koeman and that's possibly due to age, but all of our attacking players look worse under him atm, Lukaku being the only one who i can say hasn't digressed or progressed.
There's no escaping he could do better though, i look at liverpool's starting XI and the benches they put out, that honestly is no better than our team, there's nothing to suggest a competant manager could have us performing to that level and in this league, it wouldn't take an awful lot of work, as klopp has showed.
refer to liverpool above. We can always flip it and state how it's also much more competitive than all the other top leagues which is why it's usually more enjoyable, but the utter crud standard means i can't bare to watch any other game thesedays than everton. And that's only out of love, i wouldn't watch our games a neutral, they're hideous. Chelsea look unscorable against, and then you look at their defenders and well, they are pretty average really, but they work as a team. Burnley are terrible and look how high they are flying, bournemouth have come up with no stars and look comfortable since they've been up, it seems all you have to do these days in the prem is pull 11 players together and make a team out of them and you'll do well. Regardless of their limited talent and that was shown last season through leicester. We can throw all the money we want, but we need a a manager to mould them into a team as well.
Gwladysstreetlad
Player Valuation: £50m
It's a question of will he be given enough cash to buy the right players though, no point in just buying players for the sake of it. We saw in the summer the club bungle that transfer window up royally and sadly it wouldn't surprise me if they did it again in Jan. Hopefully I'm wrong though and Koeman will be given a war chest of cash to invest in the team.
Logans run
Player Valuation: £950k
Koeman inherited one of the three worst squads I can remember in my life time, looking at it I fully expected a relegation battle, in my opinion, this team is over performing relative to the current league position, it will take two windows minimum to have top 5 challenging squad of players, leaving aside any under 21 players, I can see only a maximum of 7 players being with the club, at the end of 17/18 season that is a massive undertaking and will not be easy to replace all those players with the quality to be legitimate challenges.
Patience is needed, you called out for Martinez to be given time which I agreed with you on, yet you are calling for Koeman and Moshiri,s heads
based on the legacy of the man you so avidly supported.
Seventh this season is like winning the pools any better would be sensational.
The Cowboy
Player Valuation: £60m
Did the club bungle it, or Koeman? Sounds like a mess right across the board tbh. And you can't argue that he wasn't given money to spend, it may have transpired that only the Stones money was actually spent, but judging by the countless big-time money rumours, either there was money to be spent but RK targeted poorly, or they were merely paper talk and the money was never there to fulfill those transfers. Personally, I'm leaning towards the former.
The Cowboy
Player Valuation: £60m
Pretty much all of that squad ran Arsenal to the line for 4th spot. They can't be that bad. They turned badly negative towards the end of the Martinez era, but a good manager should be able to rekindle a bit of spark in this squad. RK has failed desperately to do that.
deipnosophist
Player Valuation: £80m
100% agree...anyone who argues differently has a brain neuron connectivity issue
There's that also. But I don't really care about the money side of the game if I'm honest mate, it's nice to be able to buy good players and that. But I just enjoy not having my weekend ruined by watching us play.
I grew up watching us in the nineties and I loved us all the same.
FGS.
THREE YEARS!
That is such a long time. In life, not just football.
Things change.
The same squad finished 11th two seasons running. While that was down in large to what proved to be an inept manager, the squad also has been proven to be mid-table. A few more additions and we should be securing 7th spot with ease,and looking to build on that next year.
Osman played almost every game that season, Pienaar played loads, the whole squad was 3 years younger, its not the same group of players.
Logans run
Player Valuation: £950k
In the last two years, they finished 11th anyone who watched them knows they were not good at all, I like you got carried away with that near miss, but reality bit me on the arse and I realised weren't very good at all, and if finishing 11th in what a poor league last year, so are you saying that Koeman should have improved last years 11th placed team because some the players played better two years previously.
Sorry mate cannot agree.
The Cowboy
Player Valuation: £60m
What does any of that have to do with the fact that many of the players in the squad have been known to produce good football (and not just for one season either), and Koeman is showing no sign of extracting that quality from them? Cos that was my very clearly made point.
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