The lads at valencia were dropped from the squad with zero discussion, one being club captain and another being a veteran but still a star player for them...the football was akin to what we are seeing now at Everton...with results like 3 odd wins in 16 games (deja-vu) and no wins in 10 (i think) 12 or so months ago at southampton.
In short, he did everything wrong there and those players you are dismissive of were returned to the team after he was sacked and they finished out of relegation 13th/15th i believe.
Also, what is this 3 titles in 4 seasons?
he managed PSV/Ajax for a combined 4 seasons and won 3 league title with them mate, forgive me for saying but you can't use the excuse of 'they where by far the best team in Holland' for both teams at pretty much a very similar period of time, and if so maybe Koeman was the difference when he was managing which seperated them from each other?
OK mate lets analyze what your saying about the Valencia players
Your either saying that at Valencia Koeman didnt have a chat with the players and discuss if they should be dropped from the team? what manager would discuss a player being dropped for christs sake, or areyou saying that he gave no explanation about why they where being dropped? if so your wrong, this is from december that season when he first dropped them both
"They are not young any more. We have taken the decision not to call them up" for the games against Irun in the Spanish Cup and Zaragosa in the league, he said.
"They are sidelined for these two matches, and after that we'll see," he told a news conference.
"These are tough decisions that we have to make for the good of Valencia, which is the most important," the Dutchman said. "I am thinking about other, younger, players in order to change things."
"Santi" Canizares, who turned 38 on Tuesday and has 46 caps for Spain, has been at the club since 1998. His contract runs until 2009.
Skipper Albelda, capped 50 times by Spain, is aged 30 and is linked to the club until 2011.
As for them being returned to the team after Koeman was sacked - errr yes ofc they where, what incoming manager wouldn't after they basically undermined the previous one completely.
BTW as for being a star player, and maybe showing that it wasn't all Koeman in the wrong, Canizares had his contract terminated early (they paid him off) less than a month after Koeman was sacked - possibly a stipulation of a new manager perhaps?
Angulo lasted a bit longer and managed to play about 10 more games for the club under Emery - before he was released
Helguera who early season was praising Koeman also cam eout just before the end and stuck the knife in btw, but maybe that was in part to not recieving a new contract - which he said he wouldnt expect with Koeman manager, Emery btw released him when he took over as well
Baraja another who came out against Koeman - was a broken down player and only played a handful of games over the next two seasons as well for them - and indeed had only played a handful the preceeding couple - had like one good injury free season around then.
At Valencia you had a group of players on the down side of there careers who had gotten use to an easier ride, facing a disciplinarian manager who wanted to move the ones past it on from the club, and out of self interest they downed tools to get him sacked.
The fact is though mate, within a few months to a few years (of hardly any game time) none of those players played for Valencia anymore
The incoming manager Emery made sure of that
