Ronald Koeman discussion

[MACCA75]

I hate this group of players tbh, and have little love for the manager.

 

[tommye]

Mind numbing football? Lol. It may have been a grind when teams sat deep like the cowards they are, but I doubt Martinez will ever be associated with dull football by anyone in the football world other than a bitter core of Evertonians who now have egg on their faces having seen another manager come in and fall on his arse with the most embarrassing bunch of hoofball seen at GP since Smith and Moyes were killing pigeons on an industrial scale.

Watching the sideways and backwards and sideways and backwards (repeat until you feel the urge to gouge out your own eyes) was amongst the dullest of shîte I've ever endured as a match going blue of 40+ years service. Don't try and tell me or anybody else otherwise.

 

[MikeH72]

It was the rest of the Premier League's fault that Martinez failed because they didn't roll over for him lads.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Loser Everton players doing what they do best and being losers. I really wish today annoyed me more then it does but I just know we'll never win anything with these wasters, yes sometimes we might go on a bit of a run in the cup but the losers mentality will always shine through in the end and we'll inevitably limp out. I can't get my head around how any so called professional's can genuinely be so gutless on such a consistent basis. It simply has to be that they just don't care because to lack the fire and fight all the time simply isn't the actions of a team that does.

 

[Zatara]

Havent seen the game...

Good to see Koeman praise Tom Davies.

Barry starting is waving the white flag.

 

[daza_1973]

Just praying we make some headway in this transfer window or feb-may is gonna be like pergatory on here. ...

 

[Tony Hibbert's 3rd leg]

Remind me again what we got for going out in two semi finals last year? Absolutely nothing. Clubs don't progress by doing well in domestic cups alone every year.

Koeman's job this season was to get us into the top seven and solidify a team that had lost it way. Everything else was secondary. It's no secret to everyone that many players should and will leave, and new ones will come in. The process in between this transition won't be pretty, and its proving to be tough. But the only positive coming from these toothless performances is that Koeman becomes more and more aware the squad needs rejuvenating and I'm glad he's starting to take it to the board as well as the team. Maybe they will listen because the players evidently aren't.

 

[JLW]

Poor workman blames their tools.
I tell you what though Tommy, Koeman will have a majority of players bought in soon. He BETTER get the results and football going then.

Dave how many of the current squad that was left by Martinez are good enough to wear the blue jersey?

 

[davek]

Dave I will take that and run as I never thought I'd see it lol

As for your last sentence, if we invest heavily I'll disagree, I think we'll do better. If we carry on as the Everton of late and are tight, I agree totally.

Ha Ha. It has to said. It was a woeful run. But i reiterate, support for RM made sense given we knew what he could do under other circumstances and last season we were a couple of wins away from silver ware.

 

[Groucho]

Ha Ha. It has to said. It was a woeful run. But i reiterate, support for RM made sense given we knew what he could do under other circumstances and last season we were a couple of wins away from silver ware.

I almost see what you mean.

Almost.

 

[tommye]

Martinez only brought in 4 of the players who started today, one of whom was Do-no-wrong Lukaku. It would be right to say that Koeman shouldn't shoulder all of the blame, but Martinez has little or nothing to do with this.

The squad isn't anywhere near good enough. That is Martinez's squad bar a handful of additions. Of course he has something to do with it.


CHeers

 

[Goat]

Ronny there giving us a clean run at the league.

Utter genius Ronny lad.

 

[Prevenger17]

Clubs don't progress by doing well in domestic cups alone every year.

Right, but it helps, especially if you're 9 points off the top 6 in January and have effectively noting to play for. Cup runs keep fans enthusiastic, optimistic. That isn't nothing

 

[brieverton]

Perhaps its just Koeman's general dourness too, but even in the wake of an improved run of results in the league recently, to me his demeanour is not of somebody who is assured they have the resources to begin to spend big now and in the summer, and that in seven months time the starting Everton XI will be radically different.

His post-match comments today and more recently, for me, all seem to be a way of saying "It's over to you, Farhad" on transfers. Whether he lacks confidence in our ability to execute transfers because of last summer, or feels that enough money isn't there, we cannot know.

In one sense, I don't think there would ever have been the coziness between Koeman and the board that existed under previous managers, which is good for us. Maybe not in this window, but certainly over the summer, if he feels he was misled on the budget, I think he'll not be slow in saying so.

Of course, even with his brand of honesty he is not going to come out and suggest it will be all guns blazing for transfers, but I have to admit, and perhaps it's my general sense of paranoia and suspicion concerning Everton that's clouding my judgement here, but even aside from today's disappointment and beyond, I am becoming uneasy/unsure that "big" money will be spent.

 

[Duncan Disordely]