Ronald Koeman discussion

[Brennan]

RK and SW are supposed to both sign off on a player. RK is clearly the more forceful personality but it appears SW got his way with Gana and Lookman.
Not certain about the others but I suspect Bolasie was mainly RK's as would be Morgan and Depay. If we spend whatever funds there are on the likes of Depay the cash is going in the drain.
I'd prefer to see SW with the final say so that a currently poorly performing manager can prove his metal by developing more players like Lookman.

You say he's a poorly performing manager. Where do you think this squad should be ?

 

[davek]

Dave how many of the current squad that was left by Martinez are good enough to wear the blue jersey?

Robles, Coleman, Holgate, Funes Mori, Barry, McCarthy, Barkley, Deulofeu, Galloway, Lukaku, Davies, Besic.

Not exactly threadbare like.

 

[jceverton]

3 points better off than last season.

Purely down to Koeman is far more organised defensively than Martinez was.

Mate I'm more organised defensively than Martinez, it's not a high bar!

 

[ianefc]

2? Ashley Williams and Enner Valencia? Or am I wrong?

Still, point remains.

 

[tommye]

You didn't see the fantastic counter attacking performances with a unit like Lukaku, Barkley, Mirallas/Deulofeu tearing downfield into the opposition's territory?

Ok.

and then concede 3 in 12 minutes. Yup. Spineless no hopers. A squad full of them. Thanks Bobby. 72 points etc etc etc...

 

[terry nodder]

Well hey if he's not a cup man then fair enough neither am I, bleach always tastes better straight out the bottle anyway.

Thanks TeRRy

 

[joseph]

RK and SW are supposed to both sign off on a player. RK is clearly the more forceful personality but it appears SW got his way with Gana and Lookman.
Not certain about the others but I suspect Bolasie was mainly RK's as would be Morgan and Depay. If we spend whatever funds there are on the likes of Depay the cash is going in the drain.
I'd prefer to see SW with the final say so that a currently poorly performing manager can prove his metal by developing more players like Lookman.

I agree. Koeman has to start earning his money. There is more to management than just spending money. He will ALSO have to deal with what he has inherited.

I am also waiting for SW to make his mark. We will know more by the end of the window.

 

[Bulgarian toffee]

So because he gets payed 6mill he has to be some kind of wizard?? And we werent outplayed by them, we just lost. That can happen if you see our poor squad. 7th is the maximum with these players.

I agree that our squad is poor if you compare it to top 6. But is it poorer than those of Watford, Burnley, Swansea, etc? Look, 6 mils are a lot of money for a season and so far he has not done more than Howe or Diche would have done with the same players. It is not that I don't believe in Koeman, but I have my doubts and so far he has not done anything to prove me wrong.

 

[Frank Gallagher]

Well hey if he's not a cup man then fair enough neither am I, bleach always tastes better straight out the bottle anyway.

Thanks TeRRy

never change nod, never change

 

[Prevenger17]

which only amplifies how poor Martinez was in the market

Tbh, you won't hear any protests from me on that front. I think Lukaku is a waste of space and Deulofeu is the prime example of what you get when you plump for talent over character. I find it strange that the two Martinez players that even his detractors hold on a pedestal are the two players I regard as his biggest mistakes, with the exception of Niasse

 

[JLW]

Havent seen the game...

Good to see Koeman praise Tom Davies.

Barry starting is waving the white flag.

Barry's been waving the white flag all season, he is a massive hinderance to theteam

 

[tommye]

Aye, apart from Ashley Williams, Seamus Coleman, Mason Holgate, Leighton Baines, Ross Barkley, Tom Davies, Enner Valencia and Kevin Mirallas.

2 players brought in by Koeman and 1 promoted from within. But OK.

 

[Bullet]

Havent seen the game...

Good to see Koeman praise Tom Davies.

Barry starting is waving the white flag.

If you think starting him is waving the white flag what do you think of giving him a contract extension?
I gave out stink when Gibbo got 2 more years and look at him now. Said immediately not waiting until the end of the season to see about Barry was stupid.
He's been a great pro but just doesn't have the legs anymore.

 

[DanEFC92]

@tommye's on fire, @davek is terrified

 

[ianefc]

Tbh, you won't hear any protests from me on that front. I think Lukaku is a waste of space and Deulofeu is the prime example of what you get when you plump for talent over character. I find it strange that the two Martinez players that even his detractors hold on a pedestal are the two players I regard as his biggest mistakes, with the exception of Niasse

I though you were joking on Lukaku. I entirely agree on Deulofeu.