Ronald Koeman discussion

[Toffeeslam]

I think he's even more stubborn than Martinez, and he certainly doesn't have RMs diplomatic skills.

i expect a big crisis very early into next season for Koeman.

Some call it diplomacy most call it delusional

 

[Dirty Dutch]

Martinez was diplomatic to the point of being stupidly optimistic about some godawful displays - his post match comments often did not reflect the performance on the pitch. RK may well have underestmated the task ahead of him and not realised how toxic El fraudo's methods had eaten into the players' psyche but some on here were gunning for him from day one - Favre?? do me a favour eh?

Roberto Martinez on Tom Cleverley: "For me, Cleverley is one of the most sensational players you're going to see in Premier League history."

Roberto Martinez on Tom Cleverley: "You don't have a better English player. Technically, he is as good as you get."

This guy

 

[davek]

Some call it diplomacy most call it delusional

Roberto Martinez on Tom Cleverley: "For me, Cleverley is one of the most sensational players you're going to see in Premier League history."

Roberto Martinez on Tom Cleverley: "You don't have a better English player. Technically, he is as good as you get."

This guy

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/...belgium-head-coach.90386/page-93#post-5176114

 

[Blues Harp]

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/...belgium-head-coach.90386/page-93#post-5176114

And your point is ?? delusional !!

 

[Goat]

Remember when people said Koemans comments were bad and he should keep his mouth shut?

lollollollollollollollol

 

[TheCount]

 

[Blue Cheese]

Could take a freekick like the boss, great player.

 

[MikeH72]

I'd love him to succeed here because he's ace, and he doesn't make me feel embarrassed to call him the Everton manager. Come on Ronnie lad, the fans are behind you!

 

[davek]

The CV says it all: very good player, bang average manager.

 

[tirion]

The CV says it all: very good player, bang average manager.

bore off you attention seeking idiot, run out of steam on the transfer front so you thought you would reignite this...idiot

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

One question for the folk complaining that Koeman's team has been too direct

Have you guys and gals ever sat back to consider that perhaps some people actually like that style of football?

It seems to me like you think there's only one acceptable way to play football and that's in an aesthetic manner with lots of technical skill and passing, but have you ever stopped to think that not everyone agrees with you?

You seem to be operating under the assumption that your stance is objective as opposed to subjective

Different people like different things

I remember seeing comments during the Martinez years that our fan base was in need of "re-education" and had to be "weaned" from more direct football

Well perhaps people don't need to be weaned and perhaps they don't want to be re-educated? Maybe they just want to like what they like without the tactical nazis stomping on them for enjoying a nice cross into the box for the target man?

For me, I don't mind a bit of direct route one stuff on occasion. Would I want it all the time? No, probably not. But would I like it if we played on the whole more direct with a dash of flair here and there? Yes, I probably would

I think too many people are labouring under the misconception that lots of people want loads of passing and step overs. As many people as there is who go to the match to be entertained first and see the team win second, there's as many, if not more, who simply want to go and see their team win. And if they have to win ugly, then so be it

 

[Mosh-pit]

The CV says it all: very good player, bang average manager.

Totally agree. Would like us to approach the following managers in the summer;

Pochettino
Tuchel
Klopp
Unai Emery
Wenger

We have big money, we need to start acting like a big club.

 

[Thomasc]

Totally agree. Would like us to approach the following managers in the summer;

Pochettino
Tuchel
Klopp
Unai Emery
Wenger

We have big money, we need to start acting like a big club.

Some of the names on there make me think you are delusional.

Unless you are popcorning of course.

 

[Thomasc]

One question for the folk complaining that Koeman's team has been too direct

Have you guys and gals ever sat back to consider that perhaps some people actually like that style of football?

It seems to me like you think there's only one acceptable way to play football and that's in an aesthetic manner with lots of technical skill and passing, but have you ever stopped to think that not everyone agrees with you?

You seem to be operating under the assumption that your stance is objective as opposed to subjective

Different people like different things

I remember seeing comments during the Martinez years that our fan base was in need of "re-education" and had to be "weaned" from more direct football

Well perhaps people don't need to be weaned and perhaps they don't want to be re-educated? Maybe they just want to like what they like without the tactical nazis stomping on them for enjoying a nice cross into the box for the target man?

For me, I don't mind a bit of direct route one stuff on occasion. Would I want it all the time? No, probably not. But would I like it if we played on the whole more direct with a dash of flair here and there? Yes, I probably would

I think too many people are labouring under the misconception that lots of people want loads of passing and step overs. As many people as there is who go to the match to be entertained first and see the team win second, there's as many, if not more, who simply want to go and see their team win. And if they have to win ugly, then so be it

Agree, but the whole thing wouldn't even be an issue if we were winning more football matches.

That's what it comes down to, and that's why people to go Goodison Park, to see us win, most don't give a rats ass how we do it.

We simply have a few posters on here who want to wind others up because they are mental enough to believe the philosophy of the former manager was right, when the downward spiral we were on tells you totally the opposite.

 

[MikeH72]

One question for the folk complaining that Koeman's team has been too direct

Have you guys and gals ever sat back to consider that perhaps some people actually like that style of football?

It seems to me like you think there's only one acceptable way to play football and that's in an aesthetic manner with lots of technical skill and passing, but have you ever stopped to think that not everyone agrees with you?

You seem to be operating under the assumption that your stance is objective as opposed to subjective

Different people like different things

I remember seeing comments during the Martinez years that our fan base was in need of "re-education" and had to be "weaned" from more direct football

Well perhaps people don't need to be weaned and perhaps they don't want to be re-educated? Maybe they just want to like what they like without the tactical nazis stomping on them for enjoying a nice cross into the box for the target man?

For me, I don't mind a bit of direct route one stuff on occasion. Would I want it all the time? No, probably not. But would I like it if we played on the whole more direct with a dash of flair here and there? Yes, I probably would

I think too many people are labouring under the misconception that lots of people want loads of passing and step overs. As many people as there is who go to the match to be entertained first and see the team win second, there's as many, if not more, who simply want to go and see their team win. And if they have to win ugly, then so be it

I guarantee you not one Everton fan who watches or goes to the game, would prioritise entertainment over 3 points. Absolutely not a single one.