Ronald Koeman discussion

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I'd take a Mourinho type manager over a Guardiola/Wenger approach. Being tactically inflexible works fine when you've got world class players at nearly every position and can execute a strategy to perfection, but we are not *quite* at that level of quality.

Think Koeman will out to be more of the former than the latter, which I also hope is the case. Ideologically pure football won't work with us.

edit: also anyone who doesn't want us to qualify for EL is mental. If we don't have the squad to cope with Europa then we don't have the squad to cope with CL either. We need to start building that squad ASAP. We also need to raise the stature of the club by any means necessary, and playing in Europe is essential to that. And that's not even mentioning our coefficient...

 

[Jebus_lives]

That hopeless Leicester team had a solid foundation at the back. Going for broke in games is great, but not if you don't have a stable defensive unit. Our defence will win us as many games as All out attack.

It's easier to throw caution to the wind when there is no expectation. It's much greater in stakes to be a team that's expected to win or compete, who then seem reckless when picked apart.

 

[nsno-chris]

Not sure how you've come to that conclusion. It certainly doesn't strike me as being the case on the overwhelming evidence so far.

Because he's a professional and his job is to win. Why would he not want to win.

Clueless comment

 

[davek]

That hopeless Leicester team had a solid foundation at the back. Going for broke in games is great, but not if you don't have a stable defensive unit. Our defence will win us as many games as All out attack.

Still went for it.

No guts no glory.

 

[davek]

Because he's a professional and his job is to win. Why would he not want to win.

Clueless comment

He's cautious and he needs to shed that if he's ever to get us to a CL spot total.

This feller's settled for draws this season.

That needs to end now.

 

[nsno-chris]

He's cautious and he needs to shed that if he's ever to get us to a CL spot total.

This feller's settled for draws this season.

That needs to end now.

My original point stands, clueless.

He's a professional manager, he'll want to win every game. Unless you have proof to counter this

 

[Nymzee]

Ronald is pragmatic and I for one am bloody thankful.

 

[Jebus_lives]

He's cautious and he needs to shed that if he's ever to get us to a CL spot total.

This feller's settled for draws this season.

That needs to end now.

Leicester spent large portions of last year sat back, soaking up pressure hitting teams on the counter. They were set up in a model to not lose rather than win at all costs. While they did throw players forward at times the approach was a pragmatic one especially against the top 4, where they drew or won by 1 goal in the main. If Koeman replicates it to the point where we don't lose against those 'elite clubs' and beat the rest we will be hitting top 4.

 

[mites]

big fan of pragmatism in life and football.

guardiola gets too much stick for being inflexible though. that guy tweaks things constantly. granted there are no huge changes in style, but he adjusts to opposition always. I don't see the same from wegner.

 

[Tony Hibbert's 3rd leg]

Koeman cautiously used 4 central midfielders at once vs City and we won 4-0. Scenes.

 

[MikeH72]

 

[Prevenger17]

Unless you have proof to counter this

I met Ron in a bar one night. He was absolutely pissed and said "Pervenger, I wanna tellsh ya shecret. I donsh even try t'win. Itsh all about de drawsh"

 

[MrGrumpy]

Must be kidding mate. Even that hopeless Leicester team last season went for every game. All teams looking to win a title has to go for broke. And if we want a top 4 spot that's what we have to do.

Brakes off and accelerate.

Leicester City won a lot of games 1-0 not 5-4 or 7-0, that's why they won the league, they had a rock solid defense, they also averaged 44.8% of the ball, 3rd lowest last year not exactly all out attack.

 

[MrGrumpy]

City play all out attack and look how there doing, lost 4-0 to us, lost 4-1 to Leicester(this season) throw a 2 goal lead against Spurs away because they didn't defend when the game was pretty much over,an they have a lot better attacking players then us. Silva and Aguero to name just 2.

 

[davek]

My original point stands, clueless.

He's a professional manager, he'll want to win every game. Unless you have proof to counter this

Yeah, because ALL managers set out to win games!

Unreal.