Ronald Koeman discussion

[wilfjacko]

What he really means when he says he's lacking as a man, is that he isn't a Catalan with a liking for brown brogues mate.

The sad think is i wear Brown shoes. I'm gonna have to get rid. I'm starting to use the word 'phenomenal '

 

[davek]

Do you socialize with him often?

Yes. Formby Hall golf course. He's always at the 19th hole by noon getting a pint of schnapps down him.

 

[wilfjacko]

Yes. Formby Hall golf course. He's always at the 19th hole by noon getting a pint of schnapps down him.

Me too

 

[ilikecheese]

We're 7 points off 4th and 11 points above 11th.

 

[DrEFC]

It's saturday afternoon. We're in an office in a remote but quaint part of Brussels. After all this time I'm finally face to face with my hero. "Hello Ro-Roberto" I stumble as I come to grips with being in the same room with him. There's a line in his native language I've been practicing to impress him. "Come on estas?". Roberto gives me a warm smile. "This is my office here in Belgium. Take a look around." I'm drawn towards a cabinet on the left side in the room. In it are two pint glasses with post-it notes stuck on them, each reading the numbers "11". These must be the trophies from our last two seasons together, I begin to realize. Roberto notices me looking at the trophies and stands up behind his desk. He moves towards me. "I see you looking at those phenomenal trophies, commemorating our phenomenal performance in the premier league" he says. My heart skips a beat. Did he really say "our"? I come to my senses. "You know Roberto those two seasons were the best time of my life. You were-". Roberto interrupts my sentence by putting his finger on my lips, as if to shush me. Naturally I oblige. He points to a corner in the room. I see a stack of letters, about 3 feet high. I suddenly realize that those are the letters I've been sending him over the years. "Dave, I didn't do it alone" he suddenly says. Roberto grabs my shirt and unbuttons the top button. "We did this together Dave. You are phenomenal". More buttons get undone. I feel shy as my bare stomach flops over my belt buckle. I blush. "I wanted to personally thank you for our time together Dave". Roberto gazes me deep into my eyes, as his head is slowly moving towards mine. "Is this finally happening" I think to myself. I close my eyes in anticipation of meeting his phenomenal lips with mine.

Suddenly I hear screaming. "GOAL!! Get in there Ross you beauty!!" I hear as I get smacked on my shoulder by my sister. I open my eyes and realize I'm sat on the couch next to her. In front of us is a TV. The camera pans to Ronald Koeman's face as the scoreline is projected on the screen: "Everton 6 - Bournemouth 3" it reads. I get up from the couch in disgust and start moving towards my bedroom. "Are you a kopite or what?" My sister says. I ignore her. After starting up my computer I open my browser. The homepage is a website called Grand Old Team. "Don't worry Roberto, I will always have your back".

What the flip have I just read? I know this is the premier homosexual football site, but this is terribly unsavoury for the Lords day of rest

 

[Duncan Disordely]

What the flip have I just read? I know this is the premier homosexual football site, but this is terribly unsavoury for the Lords day of rest

I think it's a missing chapter from @MickM86 Football Diary

 

[rochdaleblue]

Doing alright for me is Koeman, to even be near the top 4/6 must be an improvement on the last 2 seasons, regardless if he's a charismatic man or not, for me he's ruthless and seems to be getting results, that'll do

I don't know if the players like Koeman as a person, but they I guess they certainly respect him for what he has achieved in the game. I don't know if it is because of the language difficulties, but he doesn't come across great in interviews. What cannot be denied is that he has players at the club now that he wants (he has been ruthless with getting out players who he feels won't add something) and undoubtedly over the last 7 games he is beginning to get the best out of those group of players. At the end of the day, that's all should concern us as fans. I wasn't alive during the catterick era, but he seemed like a similar character to Koeman in that he seemed quite distant sometimes from his players. Let's hope RK is half as successful as him.

 

[JonS]

I judged him lacking as a man not a manager...and I still dont like the feller. His capabilities as a coach are yet to be proven either way.

To me he has ALL the attributes of a successful man-manager.

And his (or his coaching team's) coaching ability seems to be pretty good too. From the start of his time with us he has shown the ability to set up the team in a pragmatic way to counter the opposition but also to make timely and generally successful changes to the team, formation and tactics when needed (as it often will be as it is impossible to always predict successfully how the opposition will set up or play).

If he stays with us he will most likely prove to be our most successful manager since HK mk1.

Him and Walsh were inspired choices by Moshiri (almost certainly a better or more reliable pick than Emery and Monchi who I wanted at the time)

 

[vagant59]

That second half performance is exactly why we wont get much further in this league. Lukaku is the difference between us and tat like that.

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So he probably should have made the same change earlier, and what?

The fact is he did make the change and we scored another 3 goals.

Great afternoons football mate, cracking atmosphere towards the end, another 3 points and onwards we go.

The fact that you seemingly can't enjoy seeing Everton win and have instead to try and find ways to pour scorn on the result and what drove it, is extremely sad to see tbh.

I think dave's problem is the onset of puberty. it does strange things to young lads brains, they start thinking they are the big I AM and know everything about everything. It will settle down again when he mature's

 

[davek]

To me he has ALL the attributes of a successful man-manager.

And his (or his coaching team's) coaching ability seems to be pretty good too. From the start of his time with us he has shown the ability to set up the team in a pragmatic way to counter the opposition but also to make timely and generally successful changes to the team, formation and tactics when needed (as it often will be as it is impossible to always predict successfully how the opposition will set up or play).

If he stays with us he will most likely prove to be our most successful manager since HK mk1.

Him and Walsh were inspired choices by Moshiri (almost certainly a better or more reliable pick than Emery and Monchi who I wanted at the time)

They are big claims mate. Time will tell and I dont like the odds on that happening, personally.

 

[jinkyali]

Only three teams conceded less than us .

Only five scored more than us.

I would say that's progress.

 

[Blues Harp]

I don't know if the players like Koeman as a person, but they I guess they certainly respect him for what he has achieved in the game. I don't know if it is because of the language difficulties, but he doesn't come across great in interviews. What cannot be denied is that he has players at the club now that he wants (he has been ruthless with getting out players who he feels won't add something) and undoubtedly over the last 7 games he is beginning to get the best out of those group of players. At the end of the day, that's all should concern us as fans. I wasn't alive during the catterick era, but he seemed like a similar character to Koeman in that he seemed quite distant sometimes from his players. Let's hope RK is half as successful as him.

Catterick was regarded as distant from his players and as a bit of a cold fish by the media but that never stopped him from assembling the best EFC team I have watched (imo) - he also made some decisions which didn't endear him to the fans...the dropping of Alex Young in favour of a young Joe Royle at Blackpool springs to mind, also his decision to play Mike Trebilcock instead of Fred Pickering in the 1966 Cup final (initially and we all know how that turned out...!! ) If Koeman is half as successful I wont be complaining....

 

[Slippin Jimmy]

That's all very premature mate. Don't you think a solid period of 7 games or so is a little too flimsy for making grand declarations like that?

Klopp went there last season and had them in two cup finals off the bat. And for all the "poor starts" that Jose and Pep have made they are still ahead of us and will no doubt finish the season that way too.

You were making grand declarations for 2 whole years of the worst Everton manager in our history

 

[davek]

You were making grand declarations for 2 whole years of the worst Everton manager in our history

Well I think there was something solid to go on with that first season wasn't there mate? All we have now is...well...nothing...

 

[Slippin Jimmy]

Well I think there was something solid to go on with that first season wasn't there mate? All we have now is...well...nothing...

2 whole years dear o dear