If any of them are anywhere near the pitch I'll be shocked.
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If any of them are anywhere near the pitch I'll be shocked.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
The feller didn't know who Sims was when we played them this season. Does that sound like someone who took a great interest in their youth set up?
Aye because their youth system is overhyped as proved last night.
Koeman gave their best talent a chance and he suffered an injury. He then skipped town to join a club with one of the best youth systems about at the moment.
Ashtonian
Banned on request
Do you think richard branson can name his call centre workers by first name mate?
Just because Koeman doesn't know the name of one of probably around 100 youngsters throughout the southampton academy is pretty meaningless really.
More to the point, he is first team manager at everton, not reserve manager. So why would he need to know them all? He gets told who is ready to step up and he gives them a chance. I mean i can't think of an example off the top of my head of him doing it, he has no track record of randomly promoting a single young player out of his youth set up part of the way through a season simply because they had earned it and looked ready to make the move up.
Do you really think he knows the name of the youth lad that makes the grade in 3 years time at the club as well? Do you think he knows who plays in our under 18 team?
Still promotes youth though
sixtynineseventy
Player Valuation: £1.5m
The 'argument' suits his narrative. Doesn't matter if any alternative view is right or wrong, true or false, valid or not. I would have thought most of you would know that by now. There's only one opinion that matters on here.
Haven't you heard though mate, it's because he was forced to. Playing Davies and Holgate was literally forced upon him against his will, he wanted nothing more than to bury them in the under 23s and play Jagielka for the rest of eternity.
Ok, if we're having a look at U23 players that weren't in the squad, let's wonder how we'd have done with:
Davies, Calvert-Lewin, Holgate, Galloway, Tarashaj, Grant, Browning, Dyson, Jones, Connolly, Evans, Brewster.
Why don't we arrange a rematch where they get Sims, McQueen, Reed and Stephens back, and we can use the above? I'd be fascinated to see how we get on. Any guesses on the scoreline Dave?
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
have any of those players actually played this season?
Ashtonian
Banned on request
I know right, not like Holgate is keeping Jags out the team at all, or Davies keeping Barry out of the team either.
Jacko93
Player Valuation: £35m
He just didn't feel that they were good enough. All well and good promoting youth, but you have to feel that they are of a good enough quality for the Premier league, or that you have at the very least, a team who are able to support them. He never had that at Southampton because they kept on selling their best players. It was part of the reason he fell out with Les Reed, he felt that the development squad wasn't good enough. He gave time to Matt Targett and said that Harry Reed was close, but felt that they still had to improve. The others, the ones he wasn't bothered about, and why should he be, just simply weren't up to it. It's up to the management team of the development squad to develop the youngsters, Koeman will then discuss the players he is briefed on and make a decision as to whether they're good enough or not. Its actually good management to allow people to do their jobs, rather than micro-manage.
Difference here is that we simply have a youth set-up that is better than Southampton's.
Behave lad, as if any of them will get on the pitch. Gordon McQueen is 64, Peter Reid is 60, and Gary Stevens and Bobby Mimms are both 53. Anything to suit your agenda, sake.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Do you think richard branson can name his call centre workers by first name mate?
Just because Koeman doesn't know the name of one of probably around 100 youngsters throughout the southampton academy is pretty meaningless really.
More to the point, he is first team manager at everton, not reserve manager. So why would he need to know them all? He gets told who is ready to step up and he gives them a chance. I mean i can't think of an example off the top of my head of him doing it, he has no track record of randomly promoting a single young player out of his youth set up part of the way through a season simply because they had earned it and looked ready to make the move up.
Do you really think he knows the name of the youth lad that makes the grade in 3 years time at the club as well? Do you think he knows who plays in our under 18 team?
Still promotes youth though
The point being made here is that while our youngsters will be talking this week about promotion to the top tier of academy football, some of Southampton's will be preparing to walk out at Wembley. That's a bit of a contradiction to the conclusion drawn by Koeman that there was nothing coming out of their academy just 12 months ago.
Thuck ma Baws
Player Valuation: £8m
To be fair though mate out if the ones you mentioned only Sims is a teenager. The others are 22/23 I think, same age as Lukaku and Barkley. Not exactly comparable to the likes of Walsh and Dowell.
Once again, Dave.
From December 2014, 2 and a bit years ago.: https://southamptonfc.com/news/2014-12-13/boss-sad-after-heskeths-bow-cut-short
There are highly rated talents and then there are the names you've plucked which they see as serviceable but there are doubts about them long-term. Southampton are playing the Sims' and the likes now because of the cutting down in spending.
Hesketh is the one they rate and he was brought on by Ron.
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