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Ronald Koeman discussion

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Back in my school days I always appreciated instructors grading on curves (I would have failed otherwise.) So grading on the curve and looking at the past 3 seasons Koeman is a 10/10, incredible job so far.
 

blueblue said:
The players were afraid of Alex Ferguson and when Mourinho is at a club I think there is a distinct fear factor..it hasn't worked out too badly for them.
Roberto Martinez got too close to his players, depended on their better nature and look what happened to him.
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You can't be friends in management, or they take the mick
 
To be honest I would rather koeman not feel obliged to be promoting young players simply on good performance and actually promote them on merit. Like Davies this season, having them force their way into the plans instead will have a much more positive effect on the team
 
davek said:
He defo outstrips Koeman, I'll give you that.

Remember when we used to take the piss about Moyes' 7th place trophy? Now it's feted when Koe-moan gets it.
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He deffo outstrips Martinez by your barometer too. I don't hold seventh as a successful campaign. CL+ or a trophy is what I care about. Koeman won't achieve with this team in this year, but if he did manage to secure a top 4 finish- he'd still have to improve on that to be our most successful PL manager. He'd just be equalling Moyes, and not winning a pot unlike Big Joe.
 

DrEFC said:
He deffo outstrips Martinez by your barometer too. I don't hold seventh as a successful campaign. CL+ or a trophy is what I care about. Koeman won't achieve with this team in this year, but if he did manage to secure a top 4 finish- he'd still have to improve on that to be our most successful PL manager. He'd just be equalling Moyes, and not winning a pot unlike Big Joe.
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It's all about standards: we reached a standard of play 4 seasons ago that outstripped anything we'd seen since the glory days of the 80s. And it was a standard that gave us results, so the two go hand in hand. The Moyes 4th spot year was a freak when 61 points secured it. In that season we scored just 48 times and conceded 49...and that got a CL spot! Incredible piece of good fortune we had, never to be repeated.
 
davek said:
It's all about standards: we reached a standard of play 4 seasons ago that outstripped anything we'd seen since the glory days of the 80s. And it was a standard that gave us results, so the two go hand in hand. The Moyes 4th spot year was a freak when 61 points secured it. In that season we scored just 48 times and conceded 49...and that got a CL spot! Incredible piece of good fortune we had, never to be repeated.
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It's all about maintaining a standard and improving on it. We reached a standard 4 years ago and immediately lost it the next season. Noticable you don't consider that a 'freak'. We have improved this season to, what looks like a 6th or 7th place finish. That needs to be maintained and improved upon.
 

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