Yeah this is starting to annoy me, it's completely natural for football managers to be compared to their predecessors, indeed it's difficult to fully assess the changes they are making if you are forbidden from discussing the baseline state they inherited. This didn't seem to be any issue when posters gleefully dragged Moyes through the dirt to big up Martinez, when Martinez came under criticism though and comparisons to his predecessor were made then all of a sudden the 'what's Moyes got to do with this thread' shouts came up. In exactly the same way that if Koeman does well Martinez will be 'off topic' whereas if he falls the wrong side of the 72 point line Martinez will suddenly be central to this thread.