Ronald Koeman discussion

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..when we play 3 CBs, I do think it's a mistake to play your most aerially dominant on the right side. Keane is your main CB so play him there.

But the whole 3 at the back is a joke when our full backs don't have the energy or skill to play higher up eggs. Criminal not to get competition for Baines and Kenny 100% deserves not just 1 game but told he s getting a run of 3/4 games

Balance wrong
Shape wrong
Personel wrong
Everything wrong at the moment

Absolutely ugly to watch
 
Not one to knee jek but that was awful. Expect a hammering on Sunday as surely our low point before it gets better. But then if Bournemouth get nowt this weekend and rock up to Goodison on 0 poits we all just know what will happen. Most worrying is that there is no pattern/ style. Players should pick themselves as Kendall used to say but who actually deserves to play at the moment? Pickford, and then I am struggling. So yes Koeman needs to be put under serious pressue but so do the players.
 
Just watched his interview where he states the team was unprepared and it is his fault. He sounds defeated. I'll give it 2 weeks max before he is gone.

If we stick with him then we are in big trouble. Very worried at the minute.
 

But the whole 3 at the back is a joke when our full backs don't have the energy or skill to play higher up eggs. Criminal not to get competition for Baines and Kenny 100% deserves not just 1 game but told he s getting a run of 3/4 games

Balance wrong
Shape wrong
Personel wrong
Everything wrong at the moment

Absolutely ugly to watch

..I honestly think he plays his wing backs primarily as defensive shields. Just saying to @Nymzee that Keane gets exposed on the right side so he plays Holgate there to protect. It is effectively a back 5.
 
Said in the match thread, we are not playing as a 'team', more a bunch of players put on the field and left to their own devices.

There is no shape or formation, players just roaming where they want and either standing on top of each other or miles apart.

There were 2 points in the game that baffled me. The 1st just before their goal - we had 3 players closing their attacker down leaving acres of space behind them. Another was a point in the second half when Sigurdsson and Rooney were standing 5 yards apart and nearly bumped into each other when when we retrieved the ball and looked for a pass.
 
I agree, something doesn't seem right. A new striker wouldn't have made a difference to this, the football and effort is absolutely substandard.

The future looked bright.....for a short period
We all knew it was going to be a tough start. I think the number of points we have got is realistic total to be honest. However Everton fans at the very least demand pride and passion when playing for the club. I'm at a loss to explain as to why this has been so lacking (Rooney apart, who at least looks as though he cares) in our play since the start of the EL qualifiers.
 

..I honestly think he plays his wing backs primarily as defensive shields. Just saying to @Nymzee that Keane gets exposed on the right side so he plays Holgate there to protect. It is effectively a back 5.

Yes and with Baines offering close to nothing attacking we're certainly a back 5. It's why I find it odd he tries to match formations with the likes of Spurs completely ignoring the fact their full-backs are all athletes.

Agree on the selections though; it's almost like he genuinely doesn't have a clue anymore who to put where. Reminds me of the first time I tried to play chess.
 
The simple fact is he just isn't a very good manager. I've said it many times but his reputation is based purely on his playing career and people give him far more credit than his managerial career deserves based on that.

Done nothing significant as a manager, fallen out with players wherever he's been and shifted the blame to anyone but himself. Honestly wouldn't be sad to see him go and someone else given a chance to galvanize the squad.

We're not world beaters but we're far better than our recent showings suggest and there's something not right.
 
But the whole 3 at the back is a joke when our full backs don't have the energy or skill to play higher up eggs. Criminal not to get competition for Baines and Kenny 100% deserves not just 1 game but told he s getting a run of 3/4 games

Balance wrong
Shape wrong
Personel wrong
Everything wrong at the moment

Absolutely ugly to watch

Ya we just look so wrong. So unbalanced. I have no idea what style of play he is going for. No idea at all. We look like we are playing walking football with possession and without. Martinez style. And the odd long ball up to a striker who isnt there. Crazy how you need coaching badges for this utter dribble
 

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