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Ronald Koeman discussion

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mikeh72 said:
No one was actively wanting Martinez to fail, he just did fail, spectacularly. People on here would rather Koeman get sacked than lead us to a trophy, I guarantee it.
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I'm don't think it was failing. It was just doing what he does, finishing bottom half. He's completed 8 full seasons as a premier league manager (bar the Norwich game) and he's finished in the bottom half 7 times.
 
bicycleheader said:
I would disagree and say that many posters have given that impression across BOTH managers. I don't believe any poster would rather he was sacked than he won a trophy.
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People were happy Martinez was sacked because he was an utter abject failure for 2 years and an embarrassment to the club, no one was on his back spewing bile and wanting him out the door 11 games into the job. It's not the same, there is an agenda that's been set here even going back BEFORE Koeman was appointed. Whoever our next manager was, was going to get it from all angles from certain posters from the word go.
 
mikeh72 said:
People were happy Martinez was sacked because he was an utter abject failure for 2 years and an embarrassment to the club, no one was on his back spewing bile and wanting him out the door 11 games into the job. It's not the same, there is an agenda that's been set here even going back BEFORE Koeman was appointed. Whoever our next manager was, was going to get it from all angles from certain posters from the word go.
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Suggesting people would prioritise having a manager sacked over winning a trophy is just silly to me.
 

mikeh72 said:
No one was actively wanting Martinez to fail, he just did fail, spectacularly. People on here would rather Koeman get sacked than lead us to a trophy, I guarantee it.
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I dunno about that, Mike.

Certainly I have not seen anyone post words to that effect.

Which is in sharp contrast to the last few months of last season when many of our friends on here were openly posting that they did not want to see Everton win the Cup just in case it bought Roberto more time in the job :)

In short "people on here" would rather have seen Martinez "get sacked rather than lead us to a trophy" :(

(It was a belt and braces approach they were taking as the more sensible among us knew Roberto's days were numbered whether we won the Cup or not...so the scorched earth merchants would have enjoyed the sadly all to rare sight of an Everton skipper holding a trophy aloft as well as ushering in the splendid new era we are all so enthralled with this season :dance:)

Evertonians openly posting they did not want us to win a cup simply because they had a bee in their bonnets over the Everton manager at the time.

How bizarre is that?

:Blink:

And that is irrefutable, my friend.

As you well know :pint2:
 
Khalekan said:
I dunno about that, Mike.

Certainly I have not seen anyone post words to that effect.

Which is in sharp contrast to the last few months of last season when many of our friends on here were openly posting that they did not want to see Everton win the Cup just in case it bought Roberto more time in the job :)

In short "people on here" would rather have seen Martinez "get sacked rather than lead us to a trophy" :(

(It was a belt and braces approach they were taking as the more sensible among us knew Roberto's days were numbered whether we won the Cup or not...so the scorched earth merchants would have enjoyed the sadly all to rare sight of an Everton skipper holding a trophy aloft as well as ushering in the splendid new era we are all so enthralled with this season :dance:)

Evertonians openly posting they did not want us to win a cup simply because they had a bee in their bonnets over the Everton manager at the time.

How bizarre is that?

:Blink:

And that is irrefutable, my friend.

As you well know :pint2:
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Well I certainly don't recall that. So if you could point me in the direction of such posts that would be greatly appreciated Friend :):cheers:
 

Ballyfermot said:
Where do we stand and koeman now? Been away for a week with no Everton media at all. What's happenin.
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We stand where fans of any club would stand having witnessed their team give up without a fight and lose 5-0 in their most recent fixture, a game which was just the latest in a run of six games which have yielded a measly five points out of a possible eighteen.

But it's good, Bally :dance:

It's everyone's fault except the Six Million Quid Man's :pint2:
 
sixtynineseventy said:
I was quite open toward RK at the outset but he does strike me as somewhat detached from the club and also lacks the kind of enthusiasm we tend to expect to see. Appreciate that has a lot to do with his natural manner but I thought he was cool to start with but he does seems cold toward the club and I think I've made my mind up about him after just 10 games. Worrying as I was expecting more than what I'm seeing and hearing.
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Absolutely this..... just something about him. He thinks he's to good for this club. Its like he doesn't want to be here.....He has no enthusiasm for us at all.
 

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