Ronald Koeman discussion

[Blue Cheese]

I don't see the harm with people discussing his shortcomings so far.

 

[hktoffee]

What's Koeman trying to achieve Mout? Please give it a go and explain if you would. He says he wants to press. Ok, I get that. But then what? What pattern does he wish to see this Everton team imprint on the game? Is there some discernible style or way of playing here that I and others are missing? It looks ad hoc and the work of someone who doesn't have the foggiest in how to prompt a team other than to tell them to work harder. No wonder he's on his arse for most of the game and doesn't get into the technical area, because I'm pretty sure he has no idea wtf to do to set things up in the first place which then need changing about as a game progresses.

It does not matter how can he do it, it is whether he can do it. If he is on par with Martinez, results wised at the end of his second season I am sure fans and Moshiri will make their mind up.

 

[Goat]

lol haha sorry Mr Hawkins.

Football intelligence is something not everybody possesses.

Mr Hawkins has these views on modern football.

• England should use the more offensive minded 4-3-3 soccer formation rather than 4-4-2 (defenders-midfielders-attackers)
• They should wear red; sports psychologists say red makes teams feel more confident and can lead them to being perceived as more aggressive and dominant
• England needs to have a European referee; stats show that 63% of games are won with an European ref compared to 38% when he's from elsewhere
• Being closer to home reduces the negative impact of cultural differences and jetlag
• Kick off should be as close to 3:00 PM as possible
• Hawking also says environmental factors are "staggering." A 5⁰C rise in temperature reduces England's chances of winning by 59% and they're twice as likely to win when playing below 500m above sea level.

 

[Jacko93]

You are a busted flush David.

Everybody sees your game and the peoples eyes are wide open, you might be able to hook the lower IQs of the forum in to your charade, but the more intelligent and thoughtful posters are willing to give the gaffer more than 14 games.

6th place gives you a Europa League place, we are 1 point away from such a placing.

On course.

Yerrrrrrrs. I wasn't taken in. Made up tbh.

 

[Thomasc]

We played like Brazil '70 in those defeats though mate...

Oh wait.

Actually it was turgid dross

As you were

lol

Yup! 90 minutes of watching Ross Barkley running in circles and giving the ball away as he held onto it too long until he had nobody to pass to.

John Stones and Seamus Coleman turned into the Keystone Cops of defending, whilst the rest of the side waddled about all out of position, due to the new zany brand of football the ex Wigan and Swansea genius had discovered and was about to turn the corner with and dominate English football for year to come.

 

[davek]

This is how Koeman wants us to play.

He took over a Southampton team on the cusp, a finely drilled unit who could adapt to free flowing direct football.

In all that video I spotted one goal that came from a well constructed move, the rest were a matter of getting the ball forward/across to big Pelle's head.

So that's the grand plan is it? That's the promised land?

This feller hasn't got a clue how to play football mate, and you know it too.

 

[mkrudden]

VVVVVV

One search of 'Ashley Williams possession football' on Google throw up hundreds of posts calling him a "an old school defender" who likes to "punt the ball as far away from his own goal as possible"......... or not.

Then he mentions the "IQ" of other posters.

Oh the irony.

 

[Blue Cheese]

Football intelligence is something not everybody possesses.

Mr Hawkins has these views on modern football.

• England should use the more offensive minded 4-3-3 soccer formation rather than 4-4-2 (defenders-midfielders-attackers)
• They should wear red; sports psychologists say red makes teams feel more confident and can lead them to being perceived as more aggressive and dominant
• England needs to have a European referee; stats show that 63% of games are won with an European ref compared to 38% when he's from elsewhere
• Being closer to home reduces the negative impact of cultural differences and jetlag
• Kick off should be as close to 3:00 PM as possible
• Hawking also says environmental factors are "staggering." A 5⁰C rise in temperature reduces England's chances of winning by 59% and they're twice as likely to win when playing below 500m above sea level.

 

[Thomasc]

• Being closer to home reduces the negative impact of cultural differences and jetlag

genius!

 

[davek]

It does not matter how can he do it, it is whether he can do it. If he is on par with Martinez, results wised at the end of his second season I am sure fans and Moshiri will make their mind up.

There's nothing there other than a mantra to work harder. That's all we get for £6M.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

No one has. We're all enjoying this agricultural stuff of Koeman's too much...and the rich rewards it brings.

I know Dave, we've been spoilt rotten with so much amazing football these last few years we don't know how to cope with a bit of hoof football. We can only look back with misty eyed longing at days like 3-0 at Sunderland, two 4-0 Derby humiliation's at the slum, 4-3 against Stoke and 3-2 west ham and that's only scratching the surface. Yes they were truly amazing days indeed!

 

[Ashtonian]

I wonder if Koeman, just a little bit is Brendan Rodgers esq?

A manager who takes the existing style at a club and tweaks it to reap the rewards of a good team/tactics already there rather than be a great manager themselves? Rodgers lifted his tactics from Swansea, has Koeman lifted his ideals and brought them here, combined them with Martinez esq tactics (2 holding still) and has now finally hit a brick wall in getting it to produce results?

I back Koeman but it all doesn't seem new or fresh, like he is recycling what he took from southampton, martinez left overs and hoped for the best. Odd that Southampton did well under poch, and have continued ever since making Koeman a little bit of a side note at the minute.

 

[hktoffee]

In all that video I spotted one goal that came from a well constructed move, the rest were a matter of getting the ball forward/across to big Pelle's head.

So that's the grand plan is it? That's the promised land?

This feller hasn't got a clue how to play football mate, and you know it too.

He got 6th and 7th at Soton with negative net spend. His PL records were ok.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

There's nothing there other than a mantra to work harder. That's all we get for £6M.

Better then the 10million for destroying us that El Fraudo got.

 

[larrygobfiend]

It was embarrassing watching the hoofball yesterday.