Ronald Koeman discussion

[Carlito]

I dont understand this.

What midfielders are you talking about? Cahill, Fellaini, Heitinga?

Arteta, Pienaar and Osman - players that were able to bring the best out of the more limited types you mentioned.

As someone who was very much in favour of appointing Martinez, I was shocked to find that his ideal midfield consisted of runners and crabs, with absolutely no consideration for inventive passing and movement.

The closest thing he ever had to a footballing midfielder was Cleverley.

Cleverley.

 

[davek]

One search of 'Ashley Williams possession football' on Google throw up hundreds of posts calling him a "an old school defender" who likes to "punt the ball as far away from his own goal as possible"......... or not.

Then he mentions the "IQ" of other posters.

Oh the irony.

He's lost it mate. chico was able to keep him in line, now he's gone this lad is running riot making so many bad posts it's frightening.

Mind you, it is a call on a CB...and goat has the dubious honour of two of the worst calls on CBs in the history of GOT:

Stones will be the best defender in the world
Van Dijk is useless

There's no coming back from calamities like that.

 

[Thomasc]

I was embarrassed watching the hoofball yesterday.

Really? I mean really embarrassed?

So if we had nicked a winner, you would still be saying you were embarrassed?

If we had won at least another 3 games and had another 6 points in the bag and were sat in 6th a point behind Spurs, then none of us would even be discussing hoofball, it wreaks of fickle and flavour of the month talk!

 

[Goat]

He's lost it mate. chico was able to keep him in line, now he's gone this lad is running riot making so many bad posts it's frightening.

Mind you, it is a call on a CB...and goat has the dubious honour of two of the worst calls on CBs in the history of GOT:

Stones will be the best defender in the world
Van Dijk is useless

There's no coming back from calamities like that.

Young John would be a God send alongside that utter yard dog we were forced into yesterday.

As I said, I watched Van Dirge for the first time the other week, he reminds me of the player John Stones will be in 3 years, but less talented.

 

[Blue Cheese]

on a football forum? In a thread named "Ronald Koeman discussion"
you're mad mate. Get outta here.

It seems to rile some folk up, almost like he's the second coming. He's only had 14 games can't possibly critique him, my arse lol.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

It was embarrassing watching the hoofball yesterday.

Most of us don't get that embarrassed anymore. We all reached saturation point last season during any of about a dozen matches that were a million times worse then the match yesterday.

 

[davek]

He got 6th and 7th at Soton with negative net spend. His PL records were ok.

Would that have been achieved without the base Pochettino put in place?

BTW, I welcomed Koeman because f his record at S'ton. But FFS I had no idea the realty of the day to day existence of that club looked like this.

 

[davek]

Football is a simple game David, made harder by people aspiring to be Brazil 1970 or even the Dutch Total Football style of play.

Retain the basics :

The other team cant score when you have the ball
The other team cant score when the ball is 50 foot in the air
The other team cant score from their half (2 or 3 freak goals aside)
To score a goal, the ball must be played forwards
To score a goal, you must find a team mate with a pass
To score a goal, you must strike the football into the net like area

I suggest you read these titbits and learn them David.

Learned at the foot of the Moyesiah.

 

[Blue Cheese]

Most of us don't get that embarrassed anymore. We all reached saturation point last season during any of about a dozen matches that were a million times worse then the match yesterday.

Both aren't mutually exclusive you know, both can be discussed. Both are terrible.

 

[BlueToff]

It seems to rile some folk up, almost like he's the second coming. He's only had 14 games can't possibly critique him, my arse lol.

It's not the critique that's the issue.

It's the ridiculous criticism and this sudden self-entitlement that's taken over Evertonians.

 

[hktoffee]

Would that have been achieved without the base Pochettino put in place?

BTW, I welcomed Koeman because f his record at S'ton. But FFS I had no idea the realty of the day to day existence of that club looked like this.

He was there for one season right? I don't buy into this influence thing because Koeman bought most Soton players when they got 6th and 7th. Results speak for itself.

 

[davek]

Arteta, Pienaar and Osman - players that were able to bring the best out of the more limited types you mentioned.

As someone who was very much in favour of appointing Martinez, I was shocked to find that his ideal midfield consisted of runners and crabs, with absolutely no consideration for inventive passing and movement.

The closest thing he ever had to a footballing midfielder was Cleverley.

Cleverley.

Barry is creative. He had Barkley as an attacking midfielder. Martinez was here three seasons and that just about evens up the 'creatives' of the Moyes era.

 

[Prevenger17]

Anyway, the content of the post itself....?

Irrelevant next to your crimes against typeface I'm afraid

 

[Blue Cheese]

It's not the critique that's the issue.

It's the ridiculous criticism and this sudden self-entitlement that's taken over Evertonians.

It's just boiled over from last year most of it, added to the disappointing transfer window, Koeman is probably getting some stick carried over from Martinez but if the togger was better, it wouldn't be happening.

 

[Prevenger17]

you might be able to hook the lower IQs of the forum in to your charade

I can confirm he can