Ronald Koeman

[Jimmy1]

Cannot wait for Monday morning and Sky sports News announce Everton have approached Southampton for Ronald Koeman.

Can you imagine the fume.

And he signs and after 6 months he's doing crap and we sack him.

 

[Jags..class]

And he signs and after 6 months he's doing crap and we sack him.

Erm no we dont sack a manager for having a bad season in their first season.

 

[Jags..class]

He's being incredibly non-committal. You certainly couldn't say with any certainty that he is definitely staying or definitely interested in coming here based on his comments.

Of course not, he looking out for himself and see what his best option is on Monday, this leaves the door open for Southampton board to offer him a pay rise and also a bigger transfer budget. The media could be doing Southampton fans a favour

 

[EddyKent]

And he signs and after 6 months he's doing crap and we sack him.

A new twitter derby has already been born, mate.

 

[Jimmy1]

Erm no we dont sack a manager for having a bad season in their first season.

We have to now. Mushi's millions dictates that we turn into bad bells. New world order.

 

[bizzaro]

I'm half tempted to sign up on a Southampton forum and give them the reasoning that Ronald will join us (if we definitely want him over the other candidates).

It's turning into a joke that their fans are saying he should stay there because they've finished ahead of us for two seasons lollollol

They're just worried. The fact they've taken to signing up to an Everton forum proves it.

Trying to justify their existance on an Everton forum.

 

[JAYMULL]

You seemingly wanting to have a dig at our club (I wonder whats brought that on?). Like you don't think much about Everton, equally I (and I expect many thousands) don't really think much about Southampton.
For whatever reason young, older or just old, we all support our own clubs in various ways. I've supported Everton a long time. Seen some very good times and some very iffy times. We do have a quite an illustrious history though in terms of trophies won. So yes, do google it, because it'll be educational. Likewise I might just google your clubs history too unless you want to just tell me how successful you've been in the past. A sentence might suffice?
Anyway I digress. Its all relative. I mean if you're a supporter who is young that only looks back a couple of years or only looks at current positions, thats fine. Its your perrogative and your perspective on things. In that regard you're right. Southampton have outperformed Everton in the league in the last 2 seasons. The table doesnt lie. We think the reason for that is the manager we had in place. We've now addressed that. I think, by your comments, you agree.
Going forward who knows. It depends who we get. If Koeman stays at Southampton, fine. If he wants to leave, he will. He'll have his own reasons for leaving or staying. It might be he wants to finish the job, stay in the comfort zone, or want a new challenge. I'm only concerned that we get the right man for us. Somebody who want a challenge because thats what we are. But if the new man gets it right we can create something new to add to our 'history'. Thats the aim and always will be.
As for Koeman. My take would be that he took the Southampton job to get a foot in the door (of the Premiere league). He's done that quite well considering the players you've sold on in the last few years. Will he stay at Southampton? Maybe, maybe not. Will he come to Everton? Maybe, but I think its only a possibility if he doesn't sign a new contract (which I think he will).
Anyway, enjoy your time in the higher echelons of the Premier League (if thats what 6th to 8th is) it obviously means success to you. Or do you have any aims to build on your own history and past successes? Oh sorry wait... you've already achieved that this season by getting a top half finish. Well done!

Southampton have only won 1 major trophy in their history are for famous Jim MCalliogg and Le-Tissier

 

[Deco]

They're just worried. The fact they've taken to signing up to an Everton forum proves it.

Trying to justify their existance on an Everton forum.

To be fair, it happens to them every two seasons so I'm not surprised they're worried about losing their manager lol

They can have Pearson.

 

[Trout Masked Replica]

I must announce my arrival here by confessing that for the past two seasons I have been willing Everton out of the top flight. Not for any Everton-related reasons but more to prove myself correct over my judgement of Martinez, which was that he just wasn't very good despite what the media tell everybody, who decided to gush over his 'great escape' every year at Wigan without ever acknowledging that he had got them into that situation in the first place whilst his predecessor in Steve Bruce had just achieved their second highest Premier League finish before Martinez took over, if i remember rightly.

Besides this, Everton never really entered my thoughts much until the last 24 hours, what with also being the supporter of a mid-table Premier League club I only tend to really look up the table to see where we could be, rather than what is going on underneath us. I often thought of Everton as being the more cultured, civilised sibling of Liverpool, but a lot of what I have read on here and on twitter suggests that delusion must be on the Merseyside curriculum. Being a child of the Premier League era, my interest in club history is limited, I tend to watch what is in front of me, but I have heard a lot mentioned about your glorious history in the last 24 hours (i'll google it later). Which got me thinking, there was some club that came down to us at the end of last season and chanted from start to finish about how much more they had won than us which really put a dampener on our 6-1 victory as it obviously sunk in how we just weren't worthy of our visitors' company... I wonder what ever happened to them?

Now this is football, whilst most of our fans and many in the media are asking the question of 'why?' (albeit it's more of a 'WHYYYY!?!?!?!?') with regards to whether our Ron would opt for Goodison, it really wouldn't surprise me that much, but I have to think if I were him then I would think what is the point? Having secured a couple of more than respectable finishes with a side that has its best players sold every season, he's shown himself to be very adept and very versatile, often switching formations and styles and 9 times out of 10 getting it spot on. Whilst I don't think the big boys abroad would come calling as of yet, I think some of the ones here would take a keen interest, and if I were him that's where I would head whilst my stock was high. Stepping sideways (or backwards really, looking at the table), would be make or break for his future options, if he fails at Everton then he would sacrifice his crack at a big job, i think it'd be a very dangerous move for his career. Added to that, i'm not convinced "Ronald Koeman is coming" would be words strong enough to convince the likes of Romelu Lukaku or John Stones (who's horrendously overhyped, by the way) to forego a chance at Champions League football elsewhere. Whilst a great manager he is, a miracle worked he ain't, players would be sacrificing more than just a solitary season if they were willing to wait and see if Everton could offer them CL football. Which would essentially leave him in a similar position to when he joined us - rebuilding from scratch - that's not really progression is it. Plus he's passed up equally illustrious roles this season at the likes of Swansea and Sunderland, and now Watford are on the look out for a new boss I really think he'd be too spoilt for choice of lower-half Premier League clubs that it'd just be easiest for him to stick with little ol' Southampton. But, then again, he wouldn't be able to say "yeah but look how much we won last century!" when questioned why his team is sat in 12th, so it must be a tough one.

Anyway, hopefully he stays with us, but as I said, nothing would surprise me in this league anymore, sometimes manager's can have their heads turned when we least expect it (£££££). Does Pep know you're looking for a manager? Surely the ink hasn't quite dried on his Man City contract yet, i'm sure he'd jump at the chance of managing one of England's super-clubs...

Two seasons out of abar 130 and you think that your club has made it. I'm made up for you lad! Let's just stop all this 'my dad is harder than yours'. If anything, take it as a compliment. Your owner has recruited well in the past and I'm very sure you will be sound again next year.

If Koeman leaves it will most probably be for a huge pot of gold and a long list of promises. I doubt that prestige or history will be a huge factor, although he is absolutely entitled to pay attention to all that too. Most people do.

 

[Jimmy1]

To be fair, it happens to them every two seasons so I'm not surprised they're worried about losing their manager lol

They can have Pearson.

Yeah there's a massive pool of managers they can have. Like you say Pearson, Hughes, Poyet, Zola the list is endless. Should just be happy they get to play with the big boys.

 

[Mogwai]

All I know is he is considering coming here. When asked about it, and just before giving his answer, he wipes under his nose. Apparently this is a sign of hiding something as you are sub consciously trying to hide your mouth/smile. I know I certainly do it when telling porkies....

 

[DualityNSNO]

LOL at the people on here thinking we won't be a sidestep (at best) for Koeman.

As if he'd be arsed about history anyway.

Also that lad was honest and pretty much spot on in most of his post, I don't get why people are getting pissy about it.

 

[Jonte]

I must announce my arrival here by confessing that for the past two seasons I have been willing Everton out of the top flight. Not for any Everton-related reasons but more to prove myself correct over my judgement of Martinez, which was that he just wasn't very good despite what the media tell everybody, who decided to gush over his 'great escape' every year at Wigan without ever acknowledging that he had got them into that situation in the first place whilst his predecessor in Steve Bruce had just achieved their second highest Premier League finish before Martinez took over, if i remember rightly.

Besides this, Everton never really entered my thoughts much until the last 24 hours, what with also being the supporter of a mid-table Premier League club I only tend to really look up the table to see where we could be, rather than what is going on underneath us. I often thought of Everton as being the more cultured, civilised sibling of Liverpool, but a lot of what I have read on here and on twitter suggests that delusion must be on the Merseyside curriculum. Being a child of the Premier League era, my interest in club history is limited, I tend to watch what is in front of me, but I have heard a lot mentioned about your glorious history in the last 24 hours (i'll google it later). Which got me thinking, there was some club that came down to us at the end of last season and chanted from start to finish about how much more they had won than us which really put a dampener on our 6-1 victory as it obviously sunk in how we just weren't worthy of our visitors' company... I wonder what ever happened to them?

Now this is football, whilst most of our fans and many in the media are asking the question of 'why?' (albeit it's more of a 'WHYYYY!?!?!?!?') with regards to whether our Ron would opt for Goodison, it really wouldn't surprise me that much, but I have to think if I were him then I would think what is the point? Having secured a couple of more than respectable finishes with a side that has its best players sold every season, he's shown himself to be very adept and very versatile, often switching formations and styles and 9 times out of 10 getting it spot on. Whilst I don't think the big boys abroad would come calling as of yet, I think some of the ones here would take a keen interest, and if I were him that's where I would head whilst my stock was high. Stepping sideways (or backwards really, looking at the table), would be make or break for his future options, if he fails at Everton then he would sacrifice his crack at a big job, i think it'd be a very dangerous move for his career. Added to that, i'm not convinced "Ronald Koeman is coming" would be words strong enough to convince the likes of Romelu Lukaku or John Stones (who's horrendously overhyped, by the way) to forego a chance at Champions League football elsewhere. Whilst a great manager he is, a miracle worked he ain't, players would be sacrificing more than just a solitary season if they were willing to wait and see if Everton could offer them CL football. Which would essentially leave him in a similar position to when he joined us - rebuilding from scratch - that's not really progression is it. Plus he's passed up equally illustrious roles this season at the likes of Swansea and Sunderland, and now Watford are on the look out for a new boss I really think he'd be too spoilt for choice of lower-half Premier League clubs that it'd just be easiest for him to stick with little ol' Southampton. But, then again, he wouldn't be able to say "yeah but look how much we won last century!" when questioned why his team is sat in 12th, so it must be a tough one.

Anyway, hopefully he stays with us, but as I said, nothing would surprise me in this league anymore, sometimes manager's can have their heads turned when we least expect it (£££££). Does Pep know you're looking for a manager? Surely the ink hasn't quite dried on his Man City contract yet, i'm sure he'd jump at the chance of managing one of England's super-clubs...

 

[EddyKent]

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See, this would wash well with me against them. However, Everton have a player equally worse and is actually his long lost son.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Two seasons out of abar 130 and you think that your club has made it. I'm made up for you lad! Let's just stop all this 'my dad is harder than yours'. If anything, take it as a compliment. Your owner has recruited well in the past and I'm very sure you will be sound again next year.

If Koeman leaves it will most probably be for a huge pot of gold and a long list of promises. I doubt that prestige or history will be a huge factor, although he is absolutely entitled to pay attention to all that too. Most people do.

He literally didn't say that though?