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Ross Barkley joins Chelsea, er, Villa on loan

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I think we're seeing something here that happens a lot with our fan base where players who leave always have to be talked down or made out to be rubbish

You saw it with Lukaku and Stones as well

I see it as a sort of coping mechanism

We're sad a player leaves so we act like they were rubbish all along, as it helps us feel better

Makes sense like, but I don't subscribe to it myself

Ah right, then you must feel hes really hit the ground running at Chelsea so far, which was his best game Mikey? Was it the game when he didnt make the squad or the game when he played the last 30 seconds?
 
I think we're seeing something here that happens a lot with our fan base where players who leave always have to be talked down or made out to be rubbish

You saw it with Lukaku and Stones as well

I see it as a sort of coping mechanism

We're sad a player leaves so we act like they were rubbish all along, as it helps us feel better

Makes sense like, but I don't subscribe to it myself

It's weird. On this page alone you have the "he never developed", "never made an impact" terrible shouts - all patently, provably false.

He is what he is - a very talented footballer who made what I feel was a poor decision in leaving Everton and, whilst I hope he falls flat on his arse now with his career, it is very likely he won't. If he stays injury free now and that new Chelsea manager gives him the chance Conte was never going to give him, then he'll always be in and around the top level of the game.

I just feel he could have been truly top drawer if he gave Everton another two years and then moved on to a truly top club instead of the nouveau riche Londoners. Pivotal moment in his career and he made a very dodgy decision.
 
Some pits are actually quite sweet and friendly. It's dachshunds you have to watch out for, they're evil little buggers.
when I was living in Wellington, an ugly dachshund/ corgi cross tried to take a bite out of me as I was walking past its driveway. I kicked it up its arse so hard it flew about 12 feet and I broke a bone in the top of my foot (the cuneiform). Took about 5 years to properly heal but in that time, the ugly little [Poor language removed] dog never bothered me again.
 

My mrs here in NZ is a proper Kiwi (with Croatian family and wont let me forget that). A proper rugby head who Ive been slowly converting to the beautful game. With all the innocence and lack of prejudice of a new-born, there's only a handful of players that she rates. Shamus is top of the list. She can see what we all know. Apparently Tom Davies has the look of a serial killer.
We watched a few games last year, when we were really bad. She asked where Ross was. She didnt follow what had happened, didnt even know his name, but described him as the guy who could just go past people with the ball at his feet like they werent there. Well you know that feeling when you have to tell your kid that the tooth fairy isnt for real?
 
Yeah, but he's not rubbish is he mate?

Lot of revisionist history going on in this thread

People saying he’s rubbish are wrong, but people that tried to make out he was better than Lampard and Gerrard at 23 were also wrong. He’s now approaching 25, the age Gerrard won his team the Champions League single handedly, and forever young Ross is a spare part. Of course these people will blame his “injury”, but the truth is he’s somewhere in the middle of the two extremes. A pretty good Premier League player.
 

People saying he’s rubbish are wrong, but people that tried to make out he was better than Lampard and Gerrard at 23 were also wrong. He’s now approaching 25, the age Gerrard won his team the Champions League single handedly, and forever young Ross is a spare part. Of course these people will blame his “injury”, but the truth is he’s somewhere in the middle of the two extremes. A pretty good Premier League player.

I didn't see many putting him in that category to be honest mate

Most thought he was a decent player with a lot of potential who filled an important role in the squad that we were lacking in
 
I didn't see many putting him in that category to be honest mate

Most thought he was a decent player with a lot of potential who filled an important role in the squad that we were lacking in

There were definitely a fair few on here who bigged him up to that level and wouldn’t hear even the slightest criticism of his performances. About summer 2016 I got rounded on for suggesting he was nowhere near those players.
 
Didn't help Ross when somebody spouted nonsense like this:

"the role model for the new generation of English football."

"There is no doubt in my mind he will be the best player England has ever had."

"Ross has everything. Normally a player has the pace and power to get around the pitch, or they have the vision to pick a pass. Ross can do both of those things."

"He is something special. In football when you describe a player, there are not many better descriptions than to say he’s an incredible football diamond."

"a phenomenal player; phenomenal person."
 
Didn't help Ross when somebody spouted nonsense like this:

"the role model for the new generation of English football."

"There is no doubt in my mind he will be the best player England has ever had."

"Ross has everything. Normally a player has the pace and power to get around the pitch, or they have the vision to pick a pass. Ross can do both of those things."

"He is something special. In football when you describe a player, there are not many better descriptions than to say he’s an incredible football diamond."

"a phenomenal player; phenomenal person."

How so?

It did a lot to secure him his big move...
 

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