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Ross Barkley joins Chelsea, er, Villa on loan

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Mikey_Fitzgerald said:
I didn't see many putting him in that category to be honest mate

Most thought he was a decent player with a lot of potential who filled an important role in the squad that we were lacking in
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Pretty good premier league player who was capable of being excellent occasionally and crap occasionally. But was more exciting to me than his actual level because he was a blue with a bit of magic in him.

Everything else around him was noise from the media and stupid impatient football fans. He was rarely judged against the profile of a pretty good prem league player....always lambasted for not being the player that he was hyped up to be by other people. Something he had zero control over.

I dont feel it would have played out the same at the end if football fans were more patient and less irrational and if our club wasn't the disorganised mess it has been for the last few years. Could be wrong and it could be all his fault but I don't believe thats the case.
 
mikeh72 said:
People saying he’s rubbish are wrong, but people that tried to make out he was better than Lampard and Gerrard at 23 were also wrong. He’s now approaching 25, the age Gerrard won his team the Champions League single handedly, and forever young Ross is a spare part. Of course these people will blame his “injury”, but the truth is he’s somewhere in the middle of the two extremes. A pretty good Premier League player.
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Dida and Gattuso finishing work at half-time had alot more to do with them lot winning that night than slippy, and you do realise they won on pens Ya? The nuthugging of that fraud on here is hilarious
 
Charles Plastusz said:
Dida and Gattuso finishing work at half-time had alot more to do with them lot winning that night than slippy, and you do realise they won on pens Ya? The nuthugging of that fraud on here is hilarious
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They would've been nowhere near the final in the first place if it wasn't for him. Ross Barkley has never ever threatened to touch that level.
 

mikeh72 said:
They would've been nowhere near the final in the first place if it wasn't for him. Ross Barkley has never ever threatened to touch that level.
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Agree with you on Barkley but that's more of a reflection on how little he's done than slippy fraud. Personally thought Alonso was much better for them
 
bicycleheader said:
Pretty good premier league player who was capable of being excellent occasionally and crap occasionally. But was more exciting to me than his actual level because he was a blue with a bit of magic in him.

Everything else around him was noise from the media and stupid impatient football fans. He was rarely judged against the profile of a pretty good prem league player....always lambasted for not being the player that he was hyped up to be by other people. Something he had zero control over.

I dont feel it would have played out the same at the end if football fans were more patient and less irrational and if our club wasn't the disorganised mess it has been for the last few years. Could be wrong and it could be all his fault but I don't believe thats the case.
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You might have a point Re. The disorganised mess thing. But I got the impression that Barkley was a pure instinct player and the less he tried to overthink things the better he would be. But conforming to a plan and knowing when to play the percentage ball sometimes was beyond him.
 
BigMick said:
Didn't help Ross when somebody spouted nonsense like this:

"the role model for the new generation of English football."

"There is no doubt in my mind he will be the best player England has ever had."

"Ross has everything. Normally a player has the pace and power to get around the pitch, or they have the vision to pick a pass. Ross can do both of those things."

"He is something special. In football when you describe a player, there are not many better descriptions than to say he’s an incredible football diamond."

"a phenomenal player; phenomenal person."
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"We wouldn't sell him for £85 million"

"the role model for the new generation of English football"
 

mikeh72 said:
People saying he’s rubbish are wrong, but people that tried to make out he was better than Lampard and Gerrard at 23 were also wrong. He’s now approaching 25, the age Gerrard won his team the Champions League single handedly, and forever young Ross is a spare part. Of course these people will blame his “injury”, but the truth is he’s somewhere in the middle of the two extremes. A pretty good Premier League player.
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Comparing Ross to Gerrard is like comparing a pencil to a wood carving, Gerrard knew how to control a game both physically, technically and verbally. Ross can't do any of them.
 
Ross getting rave reviews after Chelsea's 1-0 win against ...erm...Perth. Been having 1 on 1 sessions with the new manager. Chelsea fans reckon he could be their 'secret' weapon for the new season.
 

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