Ross Barkley joins Chelsea, er, Villa on loan

[upthetoffees]

Could understand the moaning about Ross on here but to group him with Lukaku and Stones is a bit ridiculous.

Ross was never a consistent performer for us. Stones and Lukaku 98% of the time, were, and in a perfect world all three of these players would still play for Everton.

 

[Brisan123]

So is Jake Livermore

So was Leon Osman

 

[Brisan123]

Could understand the moaning about Ross on here but to group him with Lukaku and Stones is a bit ridiculous.

Ross was never a consistent performer for us. Stones and Lukaku 98% of the time, were, and in a perfect world all three of these players would still play for Everton.

Said it on a different thread
If we had of kept Stones Lukaku and to a lesser extent Barkley and add Coleman and 4/5 signings that worked out ( Gana Siggy Pickford Etc) then we would have been in the mix for top 4
But we will have to start from scratch again hopefully in a brand new stadium

 

[sd_1992]

Barkley was bought for a future beyond Conte by their technical team who he;s at loggerheads with. I feel sure of that.

Barkley was bought to sit on the bench and be english...

 

[upthetoffees]

Barkley was bought to sit on the bench and be english...

Wish he could still do his one-time FIFA switch to Nigerian.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I've never seen such a technically gifted player have such an appalling temperament. He's as mentally weak as they come and that was clearly shown in how he went into hiding for 6 months while he was trying to shaft the club.

I call players cowards way more often than I really should, but with Ross it's the only accurate description. I hope his career flops, he suffers many injuries, and he is filled with regret.

 

[deipnosophist]

I genuinely think Barkley's big shortcoming is his inability to speedily process information and thus expeditiously execute required plays. I'm talking here of instinctive, intuitive intelligence/processing capacity that top, top athletes possess.
And whilst Barkley has great skills and physical attributes, he is devoid of sporting 'nous' (for want of a better word)

 

[peteblue]

I wouldn’t knock the lad as a footballer, he’s just a rat, a greedy rat who shafted his supposed club.........

 

[Brisan123]

I genuinely think Barkley's big shortcoming is his inability to speedily process information and thus expeditiously execute required plays. I'm talking here of instinctive, intuitive intelligence/processing capacity that top, top athletes possess.
And whilst Barkley has great skills and physical attributes, he is devoid of sporting 'nous' (for want of a better word)

It’s called a footballing brain
You just do things without thinking because your brain processes all the information and makes the choices without you realising it
It’s also called instinct

 

[DanEFC92]

Could understand the moaning about Ross on here but to group him with Lukaku and Stones is a bit ridiculous.

Ross was never a consistent performer for us. Stones and Lukaku 98% of the time, were, and in a perfect world all three of these players would still play for Everton.

Excellent display pic.

 

[Khalekan]

It’s called a footballing brain
You just do things without thinking because your brain processes all the information and makes the choices without you realising it
It’s also called instinct

Indeed.

Gazza was not the sharpest tool in the box but his football brain was exceptional.

 

[toffee-L]

I've never seen such a technically gifted player have such an appalling temperament. He's as mentally weak as they come and that was clearly shown in how he went into hiding for 6 months while he was trying to shaft the club.

I call players cowards way more often than I really should, but with Ross it's the only accurate description. I hope his career flops, he suffers many injuries, and he is filled with regret.

Interesting point about him hiding. Does anyone know if he went to any of the home games at all whilst injured? It's said that Seamus Coleman barely stayed away from the club at all whilst he was injured and he went to plenty of matches. Ross probably didn't want any awkward run ins with blues asking him about why he's such a dirty snake.

Despite the fact he's from Ireland and Ross from Liverpool, Coleman is a bigger Evertonian than Ross could ever hope to be.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Interesting point about him hiding. Does anyone know if he went to any of the home games at all whilst injured? It's said that Seamus Coleman barely stayed away from the club at all whilst he was injured and he went to plenty of matches. Ross probably didn't want any awkward run ins with blues asking him about why he's such a dirty snake.

Despite the fact he's from Ireland and Ross from Liverpool, Coleman is a bigger Evertonian than Ross could ever hope to be.

He attended zero matches and trained on his own regularly. I'm not having an 8 month long hamstring injury.

 

[Jt5688]

Said it on a different thread
If we had of kept Stones Lukaku and to a lesser extent Barkley and add Coleman and 4/5 signings that worked out ( Gana Siggy Pickford Etc) then we would have been in the mix for top 4
But we will have to start from scratch again hopefully in a brand new stadium

I feel that this moves beyond conjecture and into the realms of fantasy though. Players move to clubs that offer them a more immediate chance of trophies, more money (both in wages and potential endorsements), a better chance to play for their national team, etc. I'm sure there are RS supporters out there saying that "if we'd only kept Suarez, Mascherano and Coutinho we'd be winning the league", etc.

Of course we would still prefer to have Lukaku and Stones, but in this day and age, players move on more than ever before and for the most part can dictate where they go and when. Lukaku and Stones had no history or emotional connection with the club before they arrived and I really don't think Stones can be faulted for the way in which he departed. We all knew what Lukaku was about - he was here to up his profile and move on. He was the girl using you to make that big bloke in the year above jealous. You still got plenty of....goals...from him though.

Nobody forced any of Lukaku, Stones and Barkley out of the club. The club were never going to be able to keep Lukaku or Stones. Barkley's behaviour has been snide, cowardly and underhand and this was from the "true blue". The funny thing though is that because of his shortcomings and attitude even during his time with us, this doesn't sting anything like the Rooney departure - it feels more like the Rodwell departure only done like a snake.

 

[upthetoffees]

Interesting point about him hiding. Does anyone know if he went to any of the home games at all whilst injured? It's said that Seamus Coleman barely stayed away from the club at all whilst he was injured and he went to plenty of matches. Ross probably didn't want any awkward run ins with blues asking him about why he's such a dirty snake.

Despite the fact he's from Ireland and Ross from Liverpool, Coleman is a bigger Evertonian than Ross could ever hope to be.

Wayne Rooney was a bigger Evertonian during his 13 years with Manchester United than Ross ever was before he'd even left.